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Hi Guys,
I thought you guys could help me out. I have £600 to spend and want a large lcd or plasma (47" plus). I just dont know what to buy. Hope you could recommend some models to me.
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Still gobsmacked now after watching it ![]() Have a pop in currys and ask for a showing . |
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i have a 42 inch LCD in the bedroom only because i bought one for the living room and hated it and moved it upstairs,i sought loads of advice prior to buying it as well,but it was an expensive mistake i paid £1200 at the time for the Toshiba and just never took to it or LCD.
i now have a 52 inch Samsung Plasma with SHARP surround sound,love the picture,you cant beat plasma for movies or football in my opinion. my advice is,dont go with advice,get out and about have a good look at the picture on the televisions your interested in,some love plasma some hate it,some love LCD some hate it |
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3 or 4 year out of a plasma or life time out of a LCD ??? lol LCD LCD ![]()
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Reviewer: Robert Wiley The second question that I get from friends or family when discussing plasma TVs is, "Plasmas don't last as long right, they burn out faster (than other television technologies)? The short answer to this question among top tier brands is, "No, plasma is the equivalent of LCD/LED in lifespan as a technology, though there is variation among brands and models". FYI: The first question is, invariably, "Which is better, LCD or Plasma (TV technology). See our article: Plasma TV vs. LCD. Plasma TV life span expectancy has long been a hot topic and rightly so. Most early plasma monitor models from 1999 and early 2000 have already been delivered to the electronics graveyard. Manufacturers were doing well to deliver a plasma product that fired up. An early adoptor could purchase a plasma TV that was 6" in depth, was hot enough to fry an egg on, and had fans that sounded like it was going to take off and fly through the roof - all for a modest $10,000. However, improvements in the longevity of plasma TVs and displays have been rapidly effective. The green phosphors are claimed by some manufacturers as the reason behind the incredible increase. Lower power usage and motion adaptive anti burn-in technology are also contributors. In fact, many plasma manufacturers boast a life span of 100,000 hours to half life! This is a longer life than a tube based television. The specification is somewhat suspect since the process of determining longevity of the product is based on deductive mathematical calculation of phosphor dissipation, and does not take into account the electronic components and the myriad of problems that can occur. Panasonic was the first to claim the 60,000 hour life span, up from a previous 30,000 just a year prior and now Samsung, LG and Panasonic claim 100,000 hours to half life. So how long will a plasma last? The long and short of it is that it depends upon your daily hourly usage as well as how you use the monitor. 4 to 55 years is my new short answer. One practical example I will cite here is the Panasonic Tau units being used by video rental company, In Motion Pictures at major airports around the country. Most of the earlier Tau models have now been replaced by a newer model, but these plasma displays were used for 5 years and were the first generation of plasma displays to go a considerable distance. In Motion displays images on them from 6AM until 10PM daily (16 hours). By my estimates, these early plasma displays by Panasonic were in use by In Motion for around 30,000 hours or more. They never fail to catch my eye as I pass by in one airport or another to see if they are still in use. If they have lost some of their brightness level its hard to tell. This use equates to 18 years for a home owner that watches 3 hours television per day. So a 100,000 hour lifespan for a plasma TV will mean triple that to 54 years at 3 hours per day. Manufacturer figures for longevity are closely guarded but I have added some here for your review:
1) Never leave static images on the unit. Plasma phosphors have become more resilient to burn in and there are many technologies now incorporated to prevent it, but still its better to be safe. Do not leave a static image on the plasma screen for more than 15 minutes during the first month of use. This can cause a ghosting effect which will "wash" out by use over time. Watch the unit in full widescreen format as much as possible to avoid differentiation between the side bars of the unit. While this does not actually decrease the longevity of the phosphors it does cause an annoyance to have to play a gray static image to "erase" the temporary burn in. 2) Use Brightness and Contrast levels that are necessary for viewing - not excessive. In a brightly lit room you may need to view the plasma TV or LCD at a higher contrast and brightness, which will decrease the life of the unit. However, there are memory setting adjustments available on most recent plasma displays that allow the user to choose a memory setting to suit viewing needs. At night, or in a lower light room use lower contrast levels and extend the life. Do not use your plasma or LCD TV on 100% contrast (often designated as the picture option in the menu). In rooms with normal lighting you should not need to use the contrast setting on more than 60% of contrast. NOTE: Plasma and LCD TV manufacturers routinely ship plasma TVs with the contrast (picture) setting tweaked to 100% of contrast. Therefore, you will need to make this necessary adjustment yourself. See our article titled How to Calibrate your TV. 3) Keep the TV in a well-ventilated area. The cooling system in the plasma or LCD will not have to work as hard. 4) Buy a good brand. First tier brands are typically better built and engineered and will last longer. My first question when someone tells me about a plasma that pooped out on them is, “What brand and model was it?” Most of the time, it’s a 2nd or 3rd tier brand. 5) Turn the TV off when not in use. 6) Keep the unit out of reach of small children. 7) Do not mount the unit face down from the ceiling. (As in the old Philips ads) So how do the manufacturers know how to calculate the figures? The manufacturing facilities in Japan/Korea test plasma panels at 100% white image light and measure down from that point with meter readings. A series of mathematical deductions takes place. It takes months to find that 50% mark - between 60,000 and 100,000 hours. What a job that would be... to watch the white light... |
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When I was researching, I came across a strong recommendation that for larger TV sizes, go for plasma, with LCD best suited for smaller sizes.
Have a Panasonic G15 myself, after a lot of careful research (not least getting burned on a crap LG model a few years earlier). Was it Samsung that pushed with the LED TV's? They looked nice as well, but more pricey. On that point, be aware that you will get what you pay for as as a general rule - the cheaper the TV, the more likely you'll have quality issues - though sometimes prices can vaary wildly. Got my G15 for £700+ on Amazon, but a month later it was selling for over £900.
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that was a bit of a read lol but i like lcd but plasma is very nice...
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LCD is coming on a bit these days, but for bigger televisions there’s no comparison in my humble opinion My biggest gripe with my Toshiba Regaza 42 inch Lcd Television, was that I found it was awful for watching football, the response time for a moving football was pretty poor, the football moving becomes pixelated moving at speed, us Techs’ are a bit fussy when it comes to our entertainment set up at home. I love my plasma, I also think Full HD looks miles better on the Plasma Television |
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Panasonic rules!
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Panasonic 42" s21 if your still looking. 1080p, 600hz sfd, fview HD tuner, 2mill:1 contrast etc etc or get the 50" for the extra £100. Loads of silly prices out there now but buy before January and the vat hike!
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