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Old 15-10-10, 12:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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C&P from another forum but this is posted on a few forums now
Intresting if true


Today we got confirmation from some guys in the scene that one of this cards is on the newcamd servers with PPV from Sky Deutschland.

There are two options on this:

1. It's the NDS MOSCing which is running since a year now on some servers but never went public.

2. The Atmel based cards from Nagra have been hacked so far.
This second possibility is the one claimed by Zebra 2 but... there is a but... there are some mismatching technical issues.
Nagra has 2 kind of cards. ST MCU based (ROM 142 etc...) is use for TV Cabo, Polsat etc. Those cards are in place on native Nagra countries. Then there is the ATMEL based cards like Sky Deustchland, Digital + known as ROM 180. Atmel cards are used in tunneled systems like Seca or Irdeto.

Both cards ST and Atmel used an embedded ASIC which cannot be dumped as Flash/ROM + EEProm can be on a normal card. This is a kind of PKI or Crypto Processor and the functions inside cannot be discovered so easily if the hacker cannot reverse the logic inside the silicon.

The consideration on the above senteces are quite simple:

1. The Hacker must have knowledge of the ASIC functions to make sure this system is long term hacked.
2. ST and ATMEL cards have different ASICs for different card distribution. Dish Network and Bell Vu both are based on ST but using different ASICS. This can also be for ATMEL based cards.
3. What is weird is that they claim they have Sky Deutschland and TVCabo which is in contrast with the general concept that hacking ST card is equal to hacking Atmel cards. This sounds very very strange. Both cards cannot have the same software bugs (maybe at Nagra they have dummies but I doubt).
4. Some blogs claims that a software bug has found on both cards (very tough) and those bugs have found from ROM 141 and ROM 181 (never existed in Nagra).

What I take for granted is that someone put PPV in sharing this is quite sure all the rest will be on November 10th when they will release such Zeta 2.

I think about a better name for this card Köol card

For those how have ears to hear will have a nice road to follow

Let's wait and see....
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New RSA Card soon comes!

ZEBRA Two!!!!

Iso 7816 Smartcard Flash 72 kb
Eeprom 72 kb
Crypto:Yes
(RSA) Protokoll:T0, T1, TE
Language:ASM, (C)
Programierbar 3.57 mhz

What is with it Openly " Sky Germany and HD + Germany, and Soon still there comes TV Cabo!
Sales of the Card are on 10.11.2010 the price, the Card are 110 € of a lot of fun with the zebra Two Card!

Zebra Two teams



ppl are talkin that still cheaper is to get official subscription of both providers and what i thinkin earlier was right way


they all were just only waiting till whole europea will move to nagra 3 and they will strike .


Not a mention some providers warranty just came to end .

i am not happy coz it will start mission key changing so share user will start getting black screens again
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Sorry if i sound stupid is this for all providers or just sly?

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looks 2 be sly atm..
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New RSA Card soon comes!

ZEBRA Two!!!!

Iso 7816 Smartcard Flash 72 kb
Eeprom 72 kb
Crypto:Yes
(RSA) Protokoll:T0, T1, TE
Language:ASM, (C)
Programierbar 3.57 mhz
New card eh ?

Strange how it has the same spec as a lot of other cards which suggests its simply yet another version of the same basic Atmel smartcard. Stick a different OS and picture on it, give a hint that it MAY open some channels and flog a load of em !
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New card eh ?

Strange how it has the same spec as a lot of other cards which suggests its simply yet another version of the same basic Atmel smartcard. Stick a different OS and picture on it, give a hint that it MAY open some channels and flog a load of em !

Its a copy and paste ,, but yeh i think ur right
same as with the new blue dragon card looks just to be a variation of titanium 3 card
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well the first files for zebra 2 are on the net opening sky germany and promising d+ within a few days if true that means nag3 is open ,have to wait a couple of weeks to see if its true and how long it lasts


i dont have the card so i cant test

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if its true great news coming.
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isnt this the same spec as the bluedragon card (which is fake from what ive read)
i know the first files for zebra 2 have been released but no proof as of yet to bak it up that it actually works (i actually downloaded the files lol aint no use to me though), also if for the slightest fact this is true they are saying that a quick rom change/switch will stop this hack. but any news is good news about nagra 3, but too many rumours flying about with various nagra 3 hacks, even including new boxes being released etc etc,

to all memebrs even if you find them popping up for sale, dont go buying these cards just yet, wait a few months and see what progresses from them as it might all just be a complete load of bull or they get taken out straight away.

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well , well, its the 10th on november, well guys where can we buy these cards,,, haha, again another rumour , load of time wasting i say..
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