Can new N3 card be used on old modded box?

[Mysteriousguy]

Hi Guys,

A collegue at work has a few N3 cards given to him for Virg*n Media which he states are 'live' cards.
I have been using a modded box until they went off. Can the N3 card he has be used on my old box? Would I have to have the card and box paired? Or is he just all talk and this is not possible?

Any help or feedback will be much appreciated.
Thanks

[stevieboy10]

Originally Posted by Mysteriousguy

Hi Guys,

A collegue at work has a few N3 cards given to him for Virg*n Media which he states are 'live' cards.
I have been using a modded box until they went off. Can the N3 card he has be used on my old box? Would I have to have the card and box paired? Or is he just all talk and this is not possible?

Any help or feedback will be much appreciated.
Thanks

yes your cards would need to be paired for them to work in a subbed/modded box. the only way that they could be used is in a dreambox. also not quite sure how your m8 knows these cards are live unless he has the paired boxes to test as moscs are unheard of at the present moment.

[Mysteriousguy]

Thanks for that response.
I will get a mate to pair up the two as I don't have a clue how to do this.
If it works, will advise.

I was rather surprised how my mate got these, he is damn sure they are N3 ones.
Cheers

[TheCoder]

Originally Posted by stevieboy10

......also not quite sure how your m8 knows these cards are live unless he has the paired boxes to test as moscs are unheard of at the present moment.

Its easy enough to read the tiers from the card and examine the dates to check if a card is active or not. You can also get the ird No that its paired to if you want and, if the card has a DT08 tier, then you can get the encrypted form of the pairing key which you can then decrypt if you know how !

[kid_warrior]

Originally Posted by TheCoder

Its easy enough to read the tiers from the card and examine the dates to check if a card is active or not. You can also get the ird No that its paired to if you want and, if the card has a DT08 tier, then you can get the encrypted form of the pairing key which you can then decrypt if you know how !

Can you read the new cards with a infinity usb phoenix and nagra???
If not what can you read them with??

[TheCoder]

Originally Posted by kid_warrior

Can you read the new cards with a infinity usb phoenix and nagra???
If not what can you read them with??

Yes, but you need to use a script with NagraEdit. DO NOT try to actually use the NagraEdit read commands.

[kid_warrior]

Originally Posted by TheCoder

Yes, but you need to use a script with NagraEdit. DO NOT try to actually use the NagraEdit read commands.

Is it a new script?
or is it in the downloads?

[Sloopy]

Originally Posted by TheCoder

Its easy enough to read the tiers from the card and examine the dates to check if a card is active or not. You can also get the ird No that its paired to if you want and, if the card has a DT08 tier, then you can get the encrypted form of the pairing key which you can then decrypt if you know how !

Would you know anyone that would work out 5 cam_N for me?

[TheCoder]

Originally Posted by Sloopy

Would you know anyone that would work out 5 cam_N for me?

As only somebody seeking to profit would require 5 of them , then no !

[TheCoder]

Originally Posted by kid_warrior

Is it a new script?
or is it in the downloads?

NagraEdit scripting is pretty simple. The script engine only understands about 9 commands.

rs - reset card
tx - transmit a byte sequence to the card
rx - receive a byte sequence from the card
dl - delay for a perion (in mS)
cp - pattern compare
jf - jump if pattern compare false
js - jump if pattern compare same
jp - jump always
mg - display a message in the output panel

so, lets see if we can come up with a quick script to read channel tiers.

Firstly lets see if we can define what it is we wish to do

1/ Reset the card
2/ Set the card IFS - basically tell card the size of its output buffer
3/ Get various card status elements
4/ Get the card CamId
5/ Get paired IRD No from card
6/ Get the first channel tier from the card
7/ If there are more channel tiers then repeatedly get the next one

So, lets code it

mg *
mg ***Step 1 - Reset the card***
rs
dl 0200
mg *
mg ***Step 2 - Setting_IFS***
tx 21 C1 01 80 **
dl 0140
rx
mg *
mg ***Step 3 - Get some card status data***
mg *****CMD_$C0*****
tx 21 00 08 A0 CA 00 00 02 C0 00 06 **
dl 0140
rx
mg *****CMD_$C7*****
tx 21 40 08 A0 CA 00 00 02 C7 00 04 **
dl 0140
rx
mg *****CMD_$C8_DATE_TIME*****
tx 21 00 08 A0 CA 00 00 02 C8 00 06 **
dl 0140
rx
mg *
mg ***Step 4 - Get the card CamId***
tx 21 40 08 A0 CA 00 00 02 12 00 06 **
dl 0140
rx
mg**-----------------^^-^^-^^-^^---------cam_id_#__**
mg *
mg ***Step 5 - Get the paired IRD No***
tx 21 40 09 A0 CA 00 00 03 22 01 00 39 **
dl 0140
rx
mg **--^^-^^-^^-^^-^^------------------------------IRD_#'S__**
cp .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. 00
js virgin
mg *
mg ***Step 6 - Get the first channel tier from the card***
tx 21 40 09 A0 CA 00 00 03 22 01 05 57 **
dl 0140
rx
cp .. .. .. .. .. 00
js end05none
:next05
mg *
mg ***Step 7 - Get any subsequent channel tier from the card in loop***
tx 21 00 09 A0 CA 00 00 03 22 01 85 57 **
dl 0140
rx
cp .. .. .. .. .. 00
js end05
tx 21 40 09 A0 CA 00 00 03 22 01 85 57 **
dl 0140
rx
cp .. .. .. .. .. 00
js end05
jp next05
:end05none
mg *
mg ---no_tiers_on_cam---
:end05
jp exit
:virgin
mg *
mg ---this_is_a_virgin_card.---
:exit
mg *
mg Script finished

To run, copy the above script into the NagraEdit "Comm" window (upper pane) then click the "Send D2C" button. The results should appear in the lower pane (assuming you have a card connected and NagraEdit is configured properly).

Remember DONT use any of the normal Nagraedit commands. At this time NagraEdit is ONLY used as a simple script engine.

This script is only a small example - I'll leave it up to you to test & polish !