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fj1200 · 04-12-10, 12:54 PM

I have a HP Pavilion s7000 desktop and the hard drive is on it's last legs. It's been really acting up lately and crashed the other day. Managed to get it running again but it sounds very rough. Also failed the 'Smart short self test' which, from what I've read, is not a good sign.. There's a Samsung 2gb sata drive in it at the moment. Any recommendations for a replacement? Thanks.

FlyerUK · 04-12-10, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fj1200

I have a HP Pavilion s7000 desktop and the hard drive is on it's last legs. It's been really acting up lately and crashed the other day. Managed to get it running again but it sounds very rough. Also failed the 'Smart short self test' which, from what I've read, is not a good sign.. There's a Samsung 2gb sata drive in it at the moment. Any recommendations for a replacement? Thanks.

It's all down to what you're willing to pay

I've used Sammies, Seagates, Maxtor's, WD's in the past, never yet had one fail though, to be fair.
Currently have 4 WD's in 2 raid 1 NAS drives, plus another WD in the main desktop.

Good luck with whatever you choose.

waqasahmed · 04-12-10, 02:35 PM

I tend to buy seagate(maxtor),samsung or wd-whichevers cheapest

Saying that, I tend to buy WD as they normally have greener,quieter,more efficient drives

jet · 04-12-10, 08:44 PM

2gb seems small so i presume thats a typo.
ebuyer has good prices along with reviews so might be good as a referance point

waqasahmed · 04-12-10, 09:13 PM

Same here. I was either thinking they meant 2TB or 250GB lol

fj1200 · 05-12-10, 08:10 PM

Sorry yes was meant to read 250gb. Thanks for the info guys. Guess I'll shop around and get whatever's best value for money.

waqasahmed · 05-12-10, 08:21 PM

Would still recommend WD green though. There's about £5 difference between brands. Hard drives don't use much power, however if you do get a WD green drive, the difference will pay for itself.
You get quality
You get performance
You have a low carbon drive
Ultimately(my favourite lol), your actually saving money using WD drives

fj1200 · 05-12-10, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waqasahmed

I tend to buy seagate(maxtor),samsung or wd-whichevers cheapest

Saying that, I tend to buy WD as they normally have greener,quieter,more efficient drives

Quieter and more efficient would certainly interest me. Any links?

waqasahmed · 05-12-10, 08:40 PM

You could get this:
Western Digital WD2500BEVT 250GB 2.5" Hard Drive.. | Ebuyer.com
and this:
NEW! 2.5" to 3.5" Hard Disk Drive HDD Mounting Bracket on eBay (end time 09-Dec-10 22:53:55 GMT)

Or, you could get one of these as well
Western Digital WD5000AADS 500GB Hard Drive SATAII.. | Ebuyer.com

Or, even this one
Western Digital WD6400AADS 640GB Hard Drive SATAII.. | Ebuyer.com

The 640GB drive may be best for your money, though 2.5" drives are put in laptops because they use less power, so for the most efficient and cost effective HDD, Id probably get the 250GB 2.5" drive, and with the mounting brackets for your PC

fj1200 · 05-12-10, 09:34 PM

I came across this review on Amazon regarding the 'Green' WD drives. Shouldn't copy and paste I know but...

''I bought a pair of these to go in my NAS, but was unpleasantly surprised to notice they suffer from a 'Load Cycle Count' problem - which is fairly well publicised on the net I later found out. For those who haven't followed this, the WD Green disks implement a power saving feature where they ship the heads of the drive if the drive has been inactive for a few seconds. Linux-based NAS systems (which is most of them) write out small fragments of data every minute or so, which means the drive has to unship the drive head. You can query your drive's LLC through S.M.A.R.T. and see it ticking up by about 1000 a day.

The drives are specc'ed to a max lifetime LLC of 300k, so you can see where this is heading (groan). It's very poor that there hasn't been a fix for this straight off the bat after 3-4 months since it was first noticed, other than WD telling people to attach the drives to a windows pc and run wdidle.exe to 'lessen' the problem (this reduced the problem by about half).''

Are you aware of this LLC problem? I'd rather have a gas guzzling V8 engine running the hard drive and have no problems.

04-12-10, 12:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
fj1200 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Taobh Ó Thuaidh Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 69 Thanked 490 Times in 324 Posts	Replacement hard drive? I have a HP Pavilion s7000 desktop and the hard drive is on it's last legs. It's been really acting up lately and crashed the other day. Managed to get it running again but it sounds very rough. Also failed the 'Smart short self test' which, from what I've read, is not a good sign.. There's a Samsung 2gb sata drive in it at the moment. Any recommendations for a replacement? Thanks. __________________ For every wound, a balm. For every sorrow, cheer. For every storm, a calm. For every thirst, a beer

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waqasahmed Cost efficient muppet Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: W. Yorkshire TW area Posts: 4,547 Thanks: 2,387 Thanked 938 Times in 693 Posts	Re: Replacement hard drive? I tend to buy seagate(maxtor),samsung or wd-whichevers cheapest Saying that, I tend to buy WD as they normally have greener,quieter,more efficient drives __________________ Sat set up: Openmedia 500CS Sky mini dish 1m orbital+dodgy Motek motor TG585 v7 bridged modem DIR-615 D2 DD-WRT router

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jet Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 87 Thanks: 11 Thanked 19 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Replacement hard drive? 2gb seems small so i presume thats a typo. ebuyer has good prices along with reviews so might be good as a referance point

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waqasahmed Cost efficient muppet Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: W. Yorkshire TW area Posts: 4,547 Thanks: 2,387 Thanked 938 Times in 693 Posts	Re: Replacement hard drive? Same here. I was either thinking they meant 2TB or 250GB lol __________________ Sat set up: Openmedia 500CS Sky mini dish 1m orbital+dodgy Motek motor TG585 v7 bridged modem DIR-615 D2 DD-WRT router

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fj1200 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Taobh Ó Thuaidh Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 69 Thanked 490 Times in 324 Posts	Re: Replacement hard drive? Sorry yes was meant to read 250gb. Thanks for the info guys. Guess I'll shop around and get whatever's best value for money. __________________ For every wound, a balm. For every sorrow, cheer. For every storm, a calm. For every thirst, a beer

05-12-10, 08:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
waqasahmed Cost efficient muppet Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: W. Yorkshire TW area Posts: 4,547 Thanks: 2,387 Thanked 938 Times in 693 Posts	Re: Replacement hard drive? Would still recommend WD green though. There's about £5 difference between brands. Hard drives don't use much power, however if you do get a WD green drive, the difference will pay for itself. You get quality You get performance You have a low carbon drive Ultimately(my favourite lol), your actually saving money using WD drives __________________ Sat set up: Openmedia 500CS Sky mini dish 1m orbital+dodgy Motek motor TG585 v7 bridged modem DIR-615 D2 DD-WRT router

05-12-10, 08:40 PM	#9 (permalink)
waqasahmed Cost efficient muppet Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: W. Yorkshire TW area Posts: 4,547 Thanks: 2,387 Thanked 938 Times in 693 Posts	Re: Replacement hard drive? You could get this: Western Digital WD2500BEVT 250GB 2.5" Hard Drive.. \| Ebuyer.com and this: NEW! 2.5" to 3.5" Hard Disk Drive HDD Mounting Bracket on eBay (end time 09-Dec-10 22:53:55 GMT) Or, you could get one of these as well Western Digital WD5000AADS 500GB Hard Drive SATAII.. \| Ebuyer.com Or, even this one Western Digital WD6400AADS 640GB Hard Drive SATAII.. \| Ebuyer.com The 640GB drive may be best for your money, though 2.5" drives are put in laptops because they use less power, so for the most efficient and cost effective HDD, Id probably get the 250GB 2.5" drive, and with the mounting brackets for your PC __________________ Sat set up: Openmedia 500CS Sky mini dish 1m orbital+dodgy Motek motor TG585 v7 bridged modem DIR-615 D2 DD-WRT router

05-12-10, 09:34 PM	#10 (permalink)
fj1200 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Taobh Ó Thuaidh Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 69 Thanked 490 Times in 324 Posts	Re: Replacement hard drive? I came across this review on Amazon regarding the 'Green' WD drives. Shouldn't copy and paste I know but... ''I bought a pair of these to go in my NAS, but was unpleasantly surprised to notice they suffer from a 'Load Cycle Count' problem - which is fairly well publicised on the net I later found out. For those who haven't followed this, the WD Green disks implement a power saving feature where they ship the heads of the drive if the drive has been inactive for a few seconds. Linux-based NAS systems (which is most of them) write out small fragments of data every minute or so, which means the drive has to unship the drive head. You can query your drive's LLC through S.M.A.R.T. and see it ticking up by about 1000 a day. The drives are specc'ed to a max lifetime LLC of 300k, so you can see where this is heading (groan). It's very poor that there hasn't been a fix for this straight off the bat after 3-4 months since it was first noticed, other than WD telling people to attach the drives to a windows pc and run wdidle.exe to 'lessen' the problem (this reduced the problem by about half).'' Are you aware of this LLC problem? I'd rather have a gas guzzling V8 engine running the hard drive and have no problems. __________________ For every wound, a balm. For every sorrow, cheer. For every storm, a calm. For every thirst, a beer

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