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Old 10-01-11, 11:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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You might find this an interesting read.

A virgin non sub card was inserted into a modified blue T911 mod loader with 4053 muxs.
The virgin non sub card was reset and the atr was sent as usual.
A packet containing nops with a bclr instruction at the end was sent to the n3 cam.
When the last bit of the checksum was sent to the cam 16 additional clocks followed.
The cam was soft reset by sending the RST cam pin low from high.
As the cam rst pin swung low a bunch of glitching followed.
This glitching carried on until the RST cam pin came high again.
This glitching carried on for the first clock.
200+ additional clocks were sent to the card.
The cam i/o line was monitored for a full cycle low i/o pin result of the bclr instruction.Source: Digital Kaos [
The cam was quickly reset, glitched, & clocked a few hundred times again. repeatidly.
When the full cycle low i/o pin signal was seen N3 cams were hacked.
The bclr instructions were removed and replaced with more bsets and bclr instructions
that ROR'd rom and eeprom a bit at a time out of the cam i/o pin without need for the
rom routines that usually handle I/O output.

What Happened?

The packet was stored in the I/O buffer and the card reset before packet processing.
The reset caused the program counter and the stack pointer to reset but not ram values.
The packet full of nops that pulled the i/o line low stayed resident in ram on soft reset.
The card was reset and the addressbus latching of the reset vector was glitched until
the new reset vector became the i/o buffer where NOPS and BCLR code opened N3.
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Basically, utter garbage !
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don,t you just hate smart arses why go to the bother of posting it in the first place was on another site i use for info

and i just don,t know enough to decipher it

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don,t you just hate smart arses why go to the bother of posting it in the first place was on another site i use for info

and i just don,t know enough to decipher it

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why is he a smart arse?,all he said was to read it and explain it in layman's terms it should be obvious its copied and pasted,another legitimate post where on OP gets condemned for something they thought might help!
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tiger - it was op who commented on his own post/thread - referring to the guy who posted it on other site no doubt
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thats what i meant watto as i said just don,t have the know how to decipher it thought someone with more experience could make some sense out of it

not a complete amateur but more used to starviews and the like
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thats what i meant watto as i said just don,t have the know how to decipher it thought someone with more experience could make some sense out of it

not a complete amateur but more used to starviews and the like

The coder, who is an very well respected contributor to the cable section on this forum, has given you his considered opinion, that would be good enough for me and should be good enough for anyone.

This is very much like it was in the sat section when we got hit with N3 loads of c&ap like the sort you have posted on this thread.

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The coder, who is an very well respected contributor to the cable section on this forum, has given you his considered opinion, that would be good enough for me and should be good enough for anyone.

This is very much like it was in the sat section when we got hit with N3 loads of c&ap like the sort you have posted on this thread.

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i am sorry kerrywez have i offended you in some way

read the post i saw this on another forum i use i thought it may have been of some use to someone i did not write the article in question it was taken from another site and as i said i don,t know enough to decipher whether it was feasible or not hence the reason i asked and yes i did take on what the coder said thats why i thanked him

is it not an unwritten rule to create a post so others can learn on this forum

would you be saying the same had coder said it looks legit
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No chance of the coder saying anything of the sort. I was not getting at you mate, just trying to say that the same rubbish as this went round the sat world, till we all got used to the idea that N3 is fool proof.

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fair dues mate

i think most have resigned themselves to no n3 fix i certainly have and am paying sky 66 pound a month for the privelege of there services at the minute

but you just never know
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