Pub football other than sky may be legal in the future

[unadkat]

Originally Posted by gagzy

hi guys
what do you think? by sky insisting on virgin securing their network, in order that sky provide hd content,it has forced peeps to go for other ways ie motorised system, still getting all of sky plus much, much more. instead of virgin losing money on tv, sky now are losing money directly, lol. my case, a mate came round to watch a 3pm game, who has sky,£80 A MONTH HE WAS PAYING, asked how do you get that, i told him, he cancelled his sky & is pleased as punch with his new setup. best thing he ever done. this is happening all over the place, i know of atleast 20 lads that have cancelled sky in the last month & are now enjoying 3pm games, amongst other things, lol. is sky's monopoly coming to an end? i hope it does, after seeing how much money they make from ripping the British public off, then it's a case of just deserts! why dont the fa make OUR football free to us, but charge everyone else through the nose for it. it is the best in the world, people want it.at the moment they charge us through the nose & everyone else gets it virtualy for free, strange. sky uk are greedy bas7426s.

sky never forced vm in securing there networks,, Am not sure where that info has come from.

It was done because Vm's contarct with Kudelski was ending on N1 and they had no choice either to upgrade to N3 or find a another encryption.

[River-Rat]

sky never forced vm in securing there network

in fact they did mate, was all about work about this, thats why the pin number first came in to keep the movies and now virgin wanted more channels/hd so the new card was done

[TheCoder]

Originally Posted by River-Rat

in fact they did mate, was all about work about this, thats why the pin number first came in to keep the movies and now virgin wanted more channels/hd so the new card was done

As stated many times, Sky have absolutely no sway over what VM may or may not do. They certainly did NOT force VM into any form of encryption upgrade. The details of this particular transaction are a matter of public record when VM renewed the Kudelski deal back in late 2007. As Kudelski no longer supported N1, part of the renewal deal was that the existing system be upgraded by Kudelski (Kudelski insistance, not VM's).

Your above statement is incorrect rumour, nothing more. The PIN number stuff is irrelevant. It had no effect on encryption.

As a matter of interest, as the encryption system is effectively rented it is Kudelski who have borne most of the cost of the upgrade of the actual encryption system. VM, however, chose to make some much wider changes at the same time which involved the integration of the three old networks (NTL/CW/TW) into a single homogoneous network. So far, the CW/TW networks are now effectively one entity but the old NTL network is proving somewhat problematic (its DAVIC based rather than DOCSIS) although great strides have been made.

[unadkat]

Originally Posted by River-Rat

in fact they did mate, was all about work about this, thats why the pin number first came in to keep the movies and now virgin wanted more channels/hd so the new card was done

The pin number, well that was only implemented for parental control puporses and nothing to do with the changes of the Encrption.

kind regards
unadkat

[River-Rat]

well we was told it at virgin on the installs, that a new card was coming out so that sky would allow more hd channels