Kryptview internals.. the inquest.

[ulrich100]

Ok had a day off work to day and as it was pissing down and no chance of golf. I thought I would see what makes the krypt tick.

The first thing I noticed / discovered was the box is Fortec Innovative IP sat receiver but with a cable tuner placed in a Fortec star FSCO-5600 case. The original firmware being written by themselves.

The share seems to be though Gbox on a C line code. Which I am correct in thinking has been cracked before now for this board. So it can't be that hard to open uo the soft and get to the C line, which would contain the share info???

So what If I remove the 'stchip' and take a dump? Surely this would reveil the username / password to log into the server, the FTP that it connects to and the RSA key.


Knowing the above is probably common knowledge to every man and his dog, would I be somewhat heading in the right direction? The direction being krypt on a dream!

Im ready for slagging lads!

[TheCoder]

Sure i've seen this post somewhere else recently

Originally Posted by ulrich100

Ok had a day off work to day and as it was pissing down and no chance of golf. I thought I would see what makes the krypt tick.

Not sure its a good use of your time tbh as there's far more interesting things you could be looking at, for instance, how does card pairing work ?

The first thing I noticed / discovered was the box is Fortec Innovative IP sat receiver but with a cable tuner placed in a Fortec star FSCO-5600 case. The original firmware being written by themselves.

Possibly, even probably. Its all very incestious as very few actual box developers exist. If you look at the design in even more detail you'll find it doesn't actually deviate much from the chip manufacturers reference design. Basically, if you know how one of these boxes work then you pretty much know how they all work !

The share seems to be though Gbox on a C line code. Which I am correct in thinking has been cracked before now for this board. So it can't be that hard to open uo the soft and get to the C line, which would contain the share info???

I would suggest some more research on what Gbox protocols look like. I think you'll soon abandon that particular theory.

So what If I remove the 'stchip' and take a dump? Surely this would reveil the username / password to log into the server, the FTP that it connects to and the RSA key.

To what ends ???

Think about it, if the KV team have thought things out to the point that they have inserted unique RSA certificates in each box to act as part of the authentication protocol then they are hardly going to miss a trick when it comes to multiple boxes attempting to use that same certificate to log in with are they ?

I imagine the servers they have will have fairly strict limits on the number of individual requests per timeframe for any particular box. Thoughts of logging into the KV server with a dreambox and then re-sharing are basically just a pipe-dream. You may be able to get one logged in and operational reasonably easily. You may even get more logged in but I imagine the server stats will soon query stupidly high requests from a single box, especially for multiple channels at the same time !

Knowing the above is probably common knowledge to every man and his dog, would I be somewhat heading in the right direction? The direction being krypt on a dream!

If you really want to get a dream going on the KV server then, as outlined above, you may be able to do it but dont expect to be able to reshare. In essence, for each dreambox you want to use you would have to buy a KV to extract the unique certificates so it all seems a little pointless.

I suppose, in theory, you could get 1 KV for each channel and port the certificates to dreamboxes (also 1 per channel) to get the cw's for each and every channel and then reshare but that seems a rather expensive way to do things. In fact, it would be easier to simply extract the present CW's directly from the individual KV's and then reshare those but still way too expensive for most people to contemplate !

[michael2004]

Originally Posted by ulrich100

Ok had a day off work to day and as it was pissing down and no chance of golf. I thought I would see what makes the krypt tick.

The first thing I noticed / discovered was the box is Fortec Innovative IP sat receiver but with a cable tuner placed in a Fortec star FSCO-5600 case. The original firmware being written by themselves.

The share seems to be though Gbox on a C line code. Which I am correct in thinking has been cracked before now for this board. So it can't be that hard to open uo the soft and get to the C line, which would contain the share info???

So what If I remove the 'stchip' and take a dump? Surely this would reveil the username / password to log into the server, the FTP that it connects to and the RSA key.


Knowing the above is probably common knowledge to every man and his dog, would I be somewhat heading in the right direction? The direction being krypt on a dream!

Im ready for slagging lads!

i wonder if that is the same post as this one. just reworded in some places. nice off you to recycle old posts trying to look smart.

This is the first time i had a look at this box, to my surprise i recognized the firmware & software tools, also rear end of the box... it a Fortec Innovative IP sat receiver, with a cable turner.... place in a Fortec star FSCO-5600 ULTRA CASE.

The CS is Gbox using a C-line code.

The software has been cracked in the past, for the Innovative IP sat receiver, so it can't be that hard to open up the software to get the c-line which contains the CS info.

In work at present, will return later with more info, can't find the old websites for the Innovative in the middle east who cracked this software, then changed the gbox c-line code to another server.

the above is a post from bikerhead on a diff forum on 20th off sep 2010 03.09pm
but as i say if it's raining and u want to recycle old posts they good luck.

mic

[hearts]

Originally Posted by michael2004

i wonder if that is the same post as this one. just reworded in some places. nice off you to recycle old posts trying to look smart.



the above is a post from bikerhead on a diff forum on 20th off sep 2010 03.09pm
but as i say if it's raining and u want to recycle old posts they good luck.

mic

Geez man, it rains for a Looooong time down your way. ;-)

[bruce_ica]

Originally Posted by michael2004

i wonder if that is the same post as this one. just reworded in some places. nice off you to recycle old posts trying to look smart.



the above is a post from bikerhead on a diff forum on 20th off sep 2010 03.09pm
but as i say if it's raining and u want to recycle old posts they good luck.

mic

LOL

[QinteQ]

Originally Posted by ulrich100

Ok had a day off work to day and as it was pissing down and no chance of golf. I thought I would see what makes the krypt tick.

The first thing I noticed / discovered was the box is Fortec Innovative IP sat receiver but with a cable tuner placed in a Fortec star FSCO-5600 case. The original firmware being written by themselves.

The share seems to be though Gbox on a C line code. Which I am correct in thinking has been cracked before now for this board. So it can't be that hard to open uo the soft and get to the C line, which would contain the share info???

So what If I remove the 'stchip' and take a dump? Surely this would reveil the username / password to log into the server, the FTP that it connects to and the RSA key.


Knowing the above is probably common knowledge to every man and his dog, would I be somewhat heading in the right direction? The direction being krypt on a dream!

Im ready for slagging lads!

Embarrassed ?

[jimbo]

the above is a post from bikerhead on a diff forum on 20th off sep 2010 03.09pm
but as i say if it's raining and u want to recycle old posts they good luck.

mic

if thats the case quite sad really.

[gadgetfiend]

Originally Posted by ulrich100

Im ready for slagging lads!

im saying nothing

[ronster]

Originally Posted by gadgetfiend

im saying nothing

Me neither !

[belfastchris]

wouldnt be the only forum he passes/boasts 'his' knowledge on such topics