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mattywix · 23-04-11, 01:03 PM

Hi
Im struggling to find spanish channel 11727 Vertical on hotbird 8.

I put a wet cloth over monobloc on the astra side and made sure I got a good signal for Hotbird on the hotbird LNB (mainly the horizontal ones showed good signal) and none on Astra. So I feel fairly happy im pointing the satellite at hotbird.

But still I dont see any of the spanish channels!

Whats going on?! Could my receiver be deceiving me when it says it can see Hotbird?

I set the LNB Frequency to 10050, and got a good signal for 11727 vertical, but then the receiver channel search still didnt show me TVE.

I searched google and a listing for Hotbird 8 said TVE is on 11785 H - contradicting what everyone else says. But I cant tune into 11785 H for some reason.

Robbo · 23-04-11, 01:18 PM

Hi,

for a start, you have set the LNB frequency wrongly. It should be set to universal, and the two lnb frequencies should be 9.75GHz and 10.6GHz.

Correct that, and rescan. Then check a channel, and confirm that its on the correct frequency for the satellite that you think it should be.

kingofsat has a channel search facility to check freqs easily.

I have checked 11727V on both my receiver and on kingofsat, both confirm that TVE is there, can watch it right now.

mattywix · 23-04-11, 01:33 PM

Cheers Robbo, Ill try that right now.

By the way what is the meaning of "FEC = 3/4" is that something I need to know?

Robbo · 23-04-11, 01:37 PM

It is the forward error correction ratio. On most receivers it is set automatically.

You don't need to know about it, but it doesn't hurt to. On weaker satellites, that figure can determine whether a transponder can be rceived or not with a particular dish size. 2/3 is better than 3/4 is better than 5/6 etc.

mattywix · 23-04-11, 01:44 PM

Just tried those settings.

I can get like 11258H for example with a strong signal, but 11727V has no signal.

Why is it only a few channels are good and the others have no signal.

mattywix · 23-04-11, 01:56 PM

Could it be Im actually seeing Astra but the receiver is calling it Hotbird and thus I cant see 11727V ?

Mickha · 23-04-11, 02:43 PM

Please post some of the channels you're viewing, and frequencies, do not trust your receivers channel list but have a look at the logos on the screen.
Check the link:

Code:

http://www.lyngsat.com/astra19.html

Also check if you're getting any of the FTA channels on 13E:

Code:

http://www.lyngsat.com/hotbird.html

Robbo · 23-04-11, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattywix

Could it be Im actually seeing Astra but the receiver is calling it Hotbird and thus I cant see 11727V ?

You need to do what I already said to confirm the correct satellite :-

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbo

Then check a channel, and confirm that its on the correct frequency for the satellite that you think it should be.
kingofsat has a channel search facility to check freqs easily.

Also with the monoblock, Hotbird is usually Diseqc1.0 position 1, and Astra 19 position 2. Looking from BEHIND the dish, the Hotbird LNB is on the LEFT.

mattywix · 23-04-11, 04:05 PM

How can I view the network ID on a Fortec Star FS4400 from Maplin ( I used to have a DreamBox but its now fried).

mattywix · 23-04-11, 04:47 PM

thanks again Robbo, Ive got Hotbird tuned in nicely now.
I used kingofsat like you said and kept shifting south until I hit a matching satellite. The Maplin decoder lies about satellite IDs!!

Problem was Hotbird is only a 1mm twist on my sat mounting pole, so its hard to distinguish from Astra, and the signals are very strong.

23-04-11, 01:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
mattywix Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Battling to tune in to TVE 11727 on HOtbird 8 Hi Im struggling to find spanish channel 11727 Vertical on hotbird 8. I put a wet cloth over monobloc on the astra side and made sure I got a good signal for Hotbird on the hotbird LNB (mainly the horizontal ones showed good signal) and none on Astra. So I feel fairly happy im pointing the satellite at hotbird. But still I dont see any of the spanish channels! Whats going on?! Could my receiver be deceiving me when it says it can see Hotbird? I set the LNB Frequency to 10050, and got a good signal for 11727 vertical, but then the receiver channel search still didnt show me TVE. I searched google and a listing for Hotbird 8 said TVE is on 11785 H - contradicting what everyone else says. But I cant tune into 11785 H for some reason. Last edited by mattywix; 23-04-11 at 01:05 PM.

23-04-11, 01:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
Robbo Satellite mad Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kent Posts: 9,374 Thanks: 97 Thanked 1,981 Times in 1,603 Posts	Re: Battling to tune in to TVE 11727 on HOtbird 8 Hi, for a start, you have set the LNB frequency wrongly. It should be set to universal, and the two lnb frequencies should be 9.75GHz and 10.6GHz. Correct that, and rescan. Then check a channel, and confirm that its on the correct frequency for the satellite that you think it should be. kingofsat has a channel search facility to check freqs easily. I have checked 11727V on both my receiver and on kingofsat, both confirm that TVE is there, can watch it right now. __________________ القمر الصناعي هو أفضل TM600 linux,TM6800HD,TM5200,TM1000,TM2200 motor, Triax TD110 dish. Electronics Engineer and satellite installer.MBC Satellites

23-04-11, 01:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
mattywix Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Battling to tune in to TVE 11727 on HOtbird 8 Cheers Robbo, Ill try that right now. By the way what is the meaning of "FEC = 3/4" is that something I need to know?

23-04-11, 01:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
Robbo Satellite mad Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kent Posts: 9,374 Thanks: 97 Thanked 1,981 Times in 1,603 Posts	Re: Battling to tune in to TVE 11727 on HOtbird 8 It is the forward error correction ratio. On most receivers it is set automatically. You don't need to know about it, but it doesn't hurt to. On weaker satellites, that figure can determine whether a transponder can be rceived or not with a particular dish size. 2/3 is better than 3/4 is better than 5/6 etc. __________________ القمر الصناعي هو أفضل TM600 linux,TM6800HD,TM5200,TM1000,TM2200 motor, Triax TD110 dish. Electronics Engineer and satellite installer.MBC Satellites

23-04-11, 01:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
mattywix Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Battling to tune in to TVE 11727 on HOtbird 8 Just tried those settings. I can get like 11258H for example with a strong signal, but 11727V has no signal. Why is it only a few channels are good and the others have no signal.

23-04-11, 01:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
mattywix Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Battling to tune in to TVE 11727 on HOtbird 8 Could it be Im actually seeing Astra but the receiver is calling it Hotbird and thus I cant see 11727V ?

23-04-11, 02:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
Mickha Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,003 Thanks: 44 Thanked 1,215 Times in 862 Posts	Re: Battling to tune in to TVE 11727 on HOtbird 8 Please post some of the channels you're viewing, and frequencies, do not trust your receivers channel list but have a look at the logos on the screen. Check the link: Code: http://www.lyngsat.com/astra19.html Also check if you're getting any of the FTA channels on 13E: Code: http://www.lyngsat.com/hotbird.html Last edited by Mickha; 23-04-11 at 02:45 PM.

23-04-11, 04:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
mattywix Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Battling to tune in to TVE 11727 on HOtbird 8 How can I view the network ID on a Fortec Star FS4400 from Maplin ( I used to have a DreamBox but its now fried).

23-04-11, 04:47 PM	#10 (permalink)
mattywix Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Battling to tune in to TVE 11727 on HOtbird 8 thanks again Robbo, Ive got Hotbird tuned in nicely now. I used kingofsat like you said and kept shifting south until I hit a matching satellite. The Maplin decoder lies about satellite IDs!! Problem was Hotbird is only a 1mm twist on my sat mounting pole, so its hard to distinguish from Astra, and the signals are very strong.