Shame on starpoo and the firmware developers

[TheCoder]

Originally Posted by lincsat

..... just don't post any links or contact details.

You mean like a recent post you just made pointing people towards a certain toolbar that now acts as a payment system ?

Ok, so you didn't post an actual link but the reference was clear enough that it may of well of been actual contact details.

As I said, the rules are blurring. I think board admin may need to clarify (yet again) how far things can go because I can see things getting out of hand. This site shouldn't become a support site for people looking for info on how to aquire or renew subscription to a payserver.

[clio1]

TheKiddy apology 6 months or 12?

Hey guys I feel Asif a public apology is in hand and I will do this with my tail between my legs

Sorry!

The Intension was to give our customers more than 12 months although there is 36% that have actually had 15 months already! And only a small percentage have being disconnected through expiry today!

But unfortunately what has happened is simply the consequence of an unofficial realise thus making this inevitable!
Although it was only decided when we discovered there was an unofficial release of the box thus forcing us to lock the system down! Why should the time and effort and cost be taken for these guys to freeload and stress the systems that is intended for the paying customers that we where trying to please!

Although the support service has only proved the rumors "when stock is gone, the server will go down" WRONG!!! It will stay up along as people are joining

We are not perfect and I dare say no system in this field is perfect! Sat or cable based but one thing for certain both systems are value for money!

As for charging for support does noone realise that £90 for a box plus 45 for support (£135) is still significantly cheaper than going to sly share where your looking at least to purchase 150 worth of equipment then far more of a hassle setting up then subs of atleast £10 a month!

Or you could go with a kryptview for 150 that that's 105 (actual wholesale price) plus £45 for 12months sub's and no support! And currently just lost 5000 units! Thus will be charging for sub's in the near future!

Then with anything in this type of game! Nothing is guaranteed! Especially with cccam in the up and coming months!

As for the other stb they have not being forgotten about and they would have been realised earlier if we had not discovered the unofficial!

I'm sorry for these guys who have just bought Boxs but you will have to purchase the subscriptions although, one of our sales teams will be in contact with the wholesalers and offer bulk deals so hopefully you will get ur sub's for free or even very cheap! But it's down to them!

(PM me your suppliers emails or numbers and I'll see what I can do)

Oh n please don't knock out nonsense about wanting people's data and numbers ect it's pathetic! We are a professional team ( may not appear to be at times) but your information is safe! It's not like wer asking for names, addresses, Nat insurance and passport numbers!

Also if you think back several month ago! We could have left you in the dark but we showed you a new light and get you guys back on considering I my self was reading articles n posts saying Sv is dead! By these self confessed gurus but we proved them wrong! And these seem to be the same ever negative posters! Even I posted pics and they shouted photoshopped! (I can see a photoshopped image a mile off) then 30seconds later I realised tge smgo1 :-S

These are some of the people giving advice. Please guys just wait for the information from the horses mouth you will eventually get it! And we will get there in the end ;-)

See so after every dark day there is a brighter day after that! I'm just here to help with no financial gain at all!


PS please don't torture me for Grammer n spelling I'm a techie not a geek!


PEACE OUT!

*"First point there where never "CLONES" this is a hype to recover the money spent on the 17,000 boxes lying idle.

Second point You left Ireland without a fix over a year ago, what about them people that bought in good faith ?? there still in the dark are they not ??

Third point KV where never about the money so there is no 12 mth limit, kv have prob the best support of any cable box

Forth point SV always where and always will be about money from the start of the SV1 right up to now, a box a year, now its a sub a year suppose saves making boxes.

Fifth point there is more than cccam out there as oscam is working fine more bull

So to recap all below

no 12 month limit *kv has always had better support
*kv was down less than sv - forum posts will conform kv was up with more channels in less time than sv *a lot less*

**and what happened to his quote service would be so good people would be selling there kv to buy 2 sv's

*will they be ripped off twice? I mean need to "sub" twice ?

[TheCoder]

Originally Posted by clio1

.... a box a year, now its a sub a year suppose saves making boxes.

The change of methodology is quite obvious when you consider that the people now in charge of the servers no longer have productive contact with the original box manufacturer.

They can no longer maintain the box-a-year model so have opted for the much more dangerous subscription model. It doesn't bother them that its more dangerous - they are sitting in their palace in *******

[TheCoder]

Originally Posted by clio1

....there where never "CLONES" this is a hype to recover the money spent on the 17,000 boxes lying idle.

Indeed, afaik there has never been a clone of any Starview box. Talk of clones is really a bit of a misdirection. The fear appears to be that one of the other ex-starview factions will release their 'stored' units or the original manufacturer will attempt to recoup some of their revenue by either releasing some of their stored units or manufacturing more. These wont be clones - they would be real starview boxes.

The method of deciding what is and what isn't a valid box also seems a little dubious being as the boxes are soft-programmed with a MAC address. Any box could easlily be made to look like any other which could potentially cause havoc with the SV server system. Afaik, the boxes themselves have nothing unique about them. There is no unique hardware serial number or certificate.

Third point KV where never about the money so there is no 12 mth limit, kv have prob the best support of any cable box

hmm, the support for KV is ok but I wouldn't call it the best. I suppose in the limited competition UK market it might qualify for such a dubious honour. There are several things the KV manufacturers should have done ages ago which they seem to of neglected.

there is more than cccam out there as oscam is working fine more bull

Pretty much all the dreambox type softcams work. The softcam was never the problem (they mostly worked from day 1), it was very simply the lack of pairing keys and the lack of anyone actively trying to find them (despite oodles of info on how to do it from places like Spain).

[lincsat]

Originally Posted by TheCoder

You mean like a recent post you just made pointing people towards a certain toolbar that now acts as a payment system ?

Ok, so you didn't post an actual link but the reference was clear enough that it may of well of been actual contact details.

As I said, the rules are blurring. I think board admin may need to clarify (yet again) how far things can go because I can see things getting out of hand. This site shouldn't become a support site for people looking for info on how to aquire or renew subscription to a payserver.

Do you mean the Bigmaq toolbar - how is that a payment system? It is a file repository with some links. AFAIK, it has absolutely no connection to Starview and certainly is not a payment gateway.

[TheCoder]

Originally Posted by lincsat

The Support/subscription file is on the Bigmaq toolbar

It was yourself who first mentioned subscriptions. Is this not effectively giving people contact information to enable them to subscribe to a pay tv service ?

Its all a matter of perception. Even if its not what you intended that simple post could easily be misconstrued as a promotion of a pay tv service.

[lincsat]

You can use the file to register for subscription support for all Starview products including LNB and 4 way switch, a bit like an extended warranty or a helpline I guess. You are not paying using the Bigmaq toolbar, it is not a payment system.

I believe you can pay for many CS services through Paypal, that is a payment system, should we ban any mention of that?

[clio1]

Originally Posted by lincsat

You can use the file to register for subscription support for all Starview products including LNB and 4 way switch, a bit like an extended warranty or a helpline I guess. You are not paying using the Bigmaq toolbar, it is not a payment system.

I believe you can pay for many CS services through Paypal, that is a payment system, should we ban any mention of that?

Well funny enough paypal dont even have an account for them, also i would hazzard a guess here and say it will be illegal for to offer them services thru them as well, as this would be copywrite infringement, and im sure they have that covered in there terms and conditions.

Extended warranty, thats a joke anyways, more like a money warranty to me.

[michael2004]

this getting a bit of a joke.

why don't starview just come out and tell the truth.

sorry but our server was raided because we were stupid. one of the korean coders was caught. now the korean makers off the sv box have ditched us we have 17,000 boxes left we need to sell to recover some money. we also had to pay someone to give us the sourcecode for the sv6/7 then we had to pay some one to code/fix it for us which has cost us a load of money. now we can't get any more boxes made under the sv name (well unless they clones ) so we have to pay for the subs the coder and few other things. we not unlike any other pay server wether it be on sat or cable. remember we also sold will sell the boxes to traders at a cheaper price so they can make money as well. as for paying for support well u can get 12,6 months but anything could happen like last time server could go down coder could leave us we could sell another box.


as for posting stuff about ilegal files or were to get them. even toolbars they make money as well . one thing to remember people who sell these boxes and make money should not post links were to pay for any thing ilegal as it could come back to hunt you. im sure there are peopel on here who are not here for the same reasons as most of us

[jack08]

Originally Posted by TheCoder

You mean like a recent post you just made pointing people towards a certain toolbar that now acts as a payment system ?

Ok, so you didn't post an actual link but the reference was clear enough that it may of well of been actual contact details.

As I said, the rules are blurring. I think board admin may need to clarify (yet again) how far things can go because I can see things getting out of hand. This site shouldn't become a support site for people looking for info on how to aquire or renew subscription to a payserver.

Spot on there m8 and loads people looking for fixes for there starpoo they looking on google this site comes up then all the bums come here
thats how its got out of hand not many people come here now