svo,wvo&biodiesel

[baz-r]

im one of a growing number of people running my car on vegtable base fuel
and im shocked how well it works!
for thoes of you who dont know what im on about here is a quick rundown
when diesel engines where invented there where running on peanut oil!
yes thats right not dino diesel(fossil fuel) but it was soon to be replaced with the dino fuel for mainly cost and avalibility.
scroll on quiet a few years and with rising fuel tax/duty and the enviromental side to it bio fuels started to pop up mainly biodiesel (de-esterficated veg oil)
others where going down the svo (stright veg oil) & wvo (waste veg oil or used veg oil) route.
duty laws have recently changed in the uk making it cheaper (if you declared it!)
and the rising cost at the fuel pumps is making it more and more popular.

there are a few points you need to know before trying it tho
this, it is only diesel engines and some fuel systems will be damaged by trying it
svo and wvo been thicker than diesel (lucas pumps dont like svo,wvo)and biodiesel afecting seals and pipes due to its more solvent propertys and cleaning all the dirt into your fuel filter cloging it up when you first start useing it

some car/vans/trucks will need modifying to run on some fuels some dont

if you are intersted i realy think you should read it up first and lookinto all the options if your lucky you can just ad it stright to the tank.

have a look at Vegburner
Using Vegetable oil as a diesel fuel - database
Using Vegetable oil as a diesel fuel

if you are using it lets hear about it and if you are thinking about it post up your questions here

[baz-r]

i know someone will ask so im running a blend of 75% svo (pure rapeseed) and 25% std diesel in the summer and 50/50 in the winter i will be adding a little petrol to this if it gets real cold (sub zero for long peroids) or just running stright dino if i need to
my car is a 1995 306 td this has a bosh type pump as lucas/cav/rotodiesel pumps cant take the thickness of cold oil!!! thay brake!!
it is ideal as it has a coolent to fuel heater as std and post heat this is when the glowplugs stay on after the engine is started until the coolent reaches 60c
so far i have made no mods to make it run it starts fine when cold and smells like your down wind from a chippy and no more smoke than the norm
it is a bit more noisy when cold
mpg is up and power seems to be noticeabley better too

since then i have increased the max fuel settings for the govener max fuel and low/no boost fueling
and it is still not smokey

[reddiesel]

Ive got a mk1 shogun and have run it on veg but not all the time,i fitted an extra heated filter before the std one, it runs well on it but gives off the smell of doughnuts,which is a bit of a givaway to the boys in blue. On the legal side its using untaxed fuel that is an offence, if you register your vehicle as dual fuel and pay tax on the fuel that you use then thats perfectly fine apparently, I believe that some companies are doing that with fleet vehicles.
There was a big clamp down in south wales a while ago when vehicles were being stopped and checked, the local supermarkets couldnt keep up with the demand and were selling out.

Has anyone got a good recipe for home made bio diesel ?

[baz-r]

i was under the impressionthat if you where to use less than 2500l a year you didnt have to pay duty for it from last month as there are too meny forms getting sent into c&e and thay count handle the volume

as for the biodiesel recipe its a bit tricky as you have to get the ph right!
this would be quiet easy if your oil supply is always the same (like fresh oil)
as you would have only to make one test sample then the recipe would be the same.
you will always need one part methanol to four parts oil its just geting the ph right by verying the lye (caustic soda) mixed in the methanol

[baz-r]

oh and the other thing is you can buy biodiesel this smells the same as svo and the supplyer should be paying the duty so you dont need to anything or am i wrong in this?

[baz-r]

try this HM Revenue & Customs: Follow up to Revenue & Customs Brief 37/07 on Biofuels Simplification

[reddiesel]

No baz that applies to producing bio. If you read hmrc ref179e bio fuels and other fuel substitutes. Using bio fuel in an engine is taxed at 20p less per litre than standard fuel if it conforms to certain sulpher regs, they have right of entry to your premises to test fuel,and inspect equipment and chemicals you use. Using straight veg oil or animal fats you need one of two special licences, as the sulpher content and other emisions are above their limits, i think you would only be able to get a license if your a farmer or something like that. Bio diesel doesnt have the chippy smell as the fatty deposits are removed.
So what i thought about using it was wrong. Be careful m8.

[reddiesel]

Just been reading up on the net, a few of the blogs are saying what you said about the law change under so many litres a year,but its not clear if producing and actual using is the same thing. and i cant find anything about the licence for use. There is a company advertising svo of a quality that exceeds the standards set for use as a fuel.

[baz-r]

rang customes&exersise today
just to cheak
and yes you dont have to register or pay duty on svo,wvo or making your own bio but you may have to prove that you are useing less than 2500l a year but it is a fair amount. more than i use in diesel!
you have to give your vat no. or your add&post code so thay have a record of the info thay give you
but the lady looked it up and said its ok just to use it and i had to do nothing!

[reddiesel]

Thats great news, well done for that baz. im going to have a go at making some bio, il let you know how it turns out.