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Old 23-02-07, 07:49 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I found japanese websheets with comparison of hc7 and hv20.

Canon HV20:
http://www.google.com/translate?u=ht...&hl=en&ie=UTF8

Sony HC7:
http://www.google.com/translate?u=ht...&hl=en&ie=UTF8
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Old 24-02-07, 01:00 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Is there a noticeable difference between the HC5 and HC7? For several hundred dollars, I'm just curious as to whether you could tell on the video footage or not (I'm not concerned with still shots).
Yes, there is a considerable difference.
HC5 sharpness is similar to HC3, which is just a little sharper than the DV. HC7 on the other hand is even sharper than HC1 (the very first HDV Camcorder, I owned it. So far only Canon HV10 matched the quality of HC1)

Check out effective pixels compared:

HDR-HC1
Video Actual: 1983K Pixels (16:9);
HDR-HC3
Video Actual: 1434K Pixels (16:9);
HDR-HC5
Video Actual: 1430K Pixels (16:9);
HDR-HC7
Video Actual: 2280K Pixels (16:9);

Canon HV10
Video Actual: 2070K Pixels (16:9)

Sony FX-7
Video Actual: 1037K Pixels (16:9)

So, there you have it. HC7 is the best of the bunch if you are looking for the sharpest picture. Lowlight is OK, could be better. Overall, HC7 is the best of the bunch.
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Old 26-02-07, 11:48 AM   #23 (permalink)
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thanks for explanation about download
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Old 27-02-07, 04:39 PM   #24 (permalink)
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According to the specs the HC7 has a higher effective resolution than the HC5 when recording video. 2280K pixels (16:9) for the HC7 and 1430K Pixels (16:9) for the HC5.

The HC7 also has optical image stabilisation where the HC5 does not. OIS is worth the extra doe alone for me.

Plus the HC7 has the mic and headphone connection, these are missing on the HC5.

Full specs here

http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...me=specs&var2=

http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...me=specs&var2=
So does this 'higher effective resolution' translate to a significantly better picture?
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Old 28-02-07, 02:20 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Better?
Not necessarily, unless you like crisp images. With less effective pixels you get HD, but the soft and blurry kind of HD. With more pixels you get sharp, "too much skin detail" kind of picture.

The difference between 2280K and 1430K is 850,000 pixels. About 40% of final HD output, 1920*1080=2,073,600

HC7 downsamples a bit which is always a good thing. HC5 "makes up" the missing pixels- BAD!

Go figure~
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Old 28-02-07, 07:50 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Final output is what is regitered to the tape and actual generation mpeg2 hd camcorders will only use 1440 1080 (square pixels in 4/3 format that are streched horizontaly to fit 16/9 format) and this rule is true even if the cmos is capting higher r?solution and this is due to get 1h hd video (around 12 gigas) on a tape (at higher resolution 1h video will be around 18 to 20 gigas that cant be squeezed in a normal tape unless compressed and the tape mecanisme has tu turn faster with more drop outs probably ).
That does not mean that higher resolution Cmos like canon hv20wont make better videos ( a comparative resolution chart will probably be available on camcorderinfo.com when hv20 will be tested )
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Old 12-03-07, 09:11 AM   #27 (permalink)
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This may be a silly question but I am curious to know if there is there a way to view the entire pixel amount (raw) that the HC7 is capable of on a HD lCD. I have the 30in Apple Cinema LCD and would love to see a video at higher than 1080i if possible.
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thanks - the sharing of footage is superb!!!
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Old 15-03-07, 06:57 AM   #29 (permalink)
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This may be a silly question but I am curious to know if there is there a way to view the entire pixel amount (raw) that the HC7 is capable of on a HD lCD. I have the 30in Apple Cinema LCD and would love to see a video at higher than 1080i if possible.
Yeah, your monitor supports 2560 x 1600 which is way higher than 1080.

HDVSplit will preview video at full resolution.

MediaPlayer Classic plays full frame video. (right click- video frame-normal size)
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Old 15-03-07, 08:31 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Have been reading that here is a display size factor for percieved resolution (dont remember location) : In summery you will need a very big screen to be able to differentiate very high resolution; I think you can get such information through key word search on google (perceived resolution display or plasme size. I'll be looking for that)
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