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Old 20-02-07, 06:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi i just wounder how much diffrence there is for the viewer watching
an clip made with hc7 vs a 3cmos chip camera?
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Old 20-02-07, 09:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I did a lot of comparison and watched a lot of clips from FX1, HC3 and HC1 several months ago. In general, FX1 gives you the best image quality. HC1 and HC3 are not as capable as FX1 in terms of image quality, but they are a lot smaller and great for traveling.

I am confident to predict that HC7 will be a little better than or at lease equal to HC3 but won't be as good as FX1/FX7 in terms of image quality.

Your purchase decision should depend on what you will be shooting. I got HC3 because I shoot school performances and family events. I prefer a small camcorder so it won't frighten people and can be carried easily. If you are buying one to make wedding or corporate videos to get paid, then get a FX7.
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I do not notice much on my 50" sony. Perhaps a larger screen would make it more noticable?
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Old 21-02-07, 02:37 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Hi hyperq, i just watch the clips on the site. comparing hc7 and fx1
i didnt think there was that much diffrence in the clips comparing the modells.
i even though the fx1 hade more smear and blury picture than the hc7 (maybe the compression)...

but in the daylight shot i think there was not much noise in either of the clips.
but the nightshot of hc7 was AWFUL! is fx1 as bad in lowlight conditions as
hc7?

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I got HC3 because I shoot school performances and family events. I prefer a small camcorder so it won't frighten people and can be carried easily.
That's why I got the HC7.
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I do not notice much on my 50" sony. Perhaps a larger screen would make it more noticable?
much larger than 50" ?? maybe in a cinema?
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Hi hyperq, i just watch the clips on the site. comparing hc7 and fx1
i didnt think there was that much diffrence in the clips comparing the modells.
i even though the fx1 hade more smear and blury picture than the hc7 (maybe the compression)...

but in the daylight shot i think there was not much noise in either of the clips.
but the nightshot of hc7 was AWFUL! is fx1 as bad in lowlight conditions as
hc7?

/Alienx
Personally, I would get HC7 (as soon as they come to local BestBuy

Noise is correctable, turn down the color and use a light on top.
FX1 and FX7 use two layers to create an image- soft version and sharp version. That's why all of the footage shot with those two looks kind of fuzzy when shooting up close, a person's face for example. (If you campare them to cinealta's, of course. Those cost two arms, three legs, and a lifetime of work, but they record only "sharp" layer.)
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much larger than 50" ?? maybe in a cinema?
I would suggest you watch the clips on a computer monitor. Media Player Classic allows you to play at full resolution, but only shows the area of your monitor.

Right click-
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Normal Size.
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Old 24-02-07, 02:12 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Sometimes percepted Video Quality depends more from lens sharpness, than electronic specifications from camera sensor. If you need to use a smaller and more convenient camera, with not so good lenses and sensor, you can post-process footage and get very professional look like images. Don't forget the light conditions... most of current TV documentaries look prety good, but most of them was recorded using $5K Cameras with poor image specifications than newer prosumer Sony's.

Just in case, Carl Zeiss Lens from sony, even in cheaper cameras are prety good.
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Old 28-02-07, 06:45 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Hi i just wounder how much diffrence there is for the viewer watching
an clip made with hc7 vs a 3cmos chip camera?
None.

or rather all the difference to the discerning eye.

HC1 had little yellow pixels-the image looked dull.
HC3 has more green and red- the image looks oversaturated in those areas.
HC7- ??? will have to wait and see the XV Color.
3CMOS- in theory the colors should be the "balancedest" if you'd care to expand our dictionary. It would look even and real. However, we've yet to see that.
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