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Canon Cameras Canon digital cameras and video recorders, including HV10 and HV20 Single CMOS, and Canon XH-A1 , XH-G1, XL-H1 camcorders.

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Old 06-04-07, 04:59 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Well , that is where our site comes in. There is nothing more than seeing actual footage. You download and judge for yourself. Moreover it is uploaded by different users hence, this can't go wrong. Many a time I have seen that Print media and reviews are more or less biased towards a product.
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Old 06-04-07, 07:19 PM   #32 (permalink)
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agree 100% with admin; What matter is the resulting video.
Read well the performance chapter of HC7 at cnet :
quot "When we played back our standard test scenes shot around Sydney's Chinatown on a high-def projector, even the most sceptical amongst were impressed. Projecting an image roughly 107-inches diagonally, the video was incredibly sharp"
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Old 06-04-07, 07:29 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Sory missed next:

rating at cnet takes in account many of camera specifications and quality its not only video outcome quality
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Old 07-04-07, 10:40 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Reading the review I'm skeptical about the CNET reviews. Notice they say in the HV20 review that if you often shoot in low light and don't mind spending extra cash (and using a touchscreen), you may consider the HC7.

However the HV20 is very similar in low-light (and better in 24p mode).
I think this is purely based on the specs: 2lux versus 3lux rating...
I would rather go with the quantified camcorderinfo tests...

One common issue I noticed with all Sony's (and I have one), is that in low-light the focus is hunting. The HV20 appears to do much better. Any experience with the HC7 on low-light focusing?
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Old 08-04-07, 12:39 AM   #35 (permalink)
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You are probably right about low light, but low light is not everything;
there are a lot of factors in perceived quality .
I have been posting on quality through number of threads ( just clic on my name and go to all my comments).
my already old Sony HC1 is icredibly nice when projected (Pana PTAX100 720p hdready projector): Sony has reputation sharpening edges and pana projecter have a smoothing inter pixel mecanism (no screen door effect) and the combination of these two is incredible.
What you realy see is a combination of in cam quality and display quality
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Old 08-04-07, 05:01 AM   #36 (permalink)
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What can the remote do? Start/Stop/Zoom?
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Well, got my HV20 in hand and have been playing with it for a while. In regards tot he Lanc, yeah that probably would have been a nice bonus. Don't think I'll need it for what I do, but the remote really won't help me too much. The sensor is on the front of the camera, so you have to swing the remote under and in front to get it to register. Its IR so has to be in view of the sensor. Would have been nice if it was RF, but I didn't think it would though. Also would have been nice if it was on the back of the unit instead!

As far as what's on the remote..
Start-Stop
Photo button
Zoom
Card +-
Date Search, Standard play controls (for, rev, play stop etc)
X2,
Zero set memory, display options and output for TV screen.

Nice remote for use when the cam is plugged into the TV for direct viewing. Otherwise I'd say it's just marginally useful.

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Old 10-04-07, 07:40 AM   #37 (permalink)
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I've got the sony and not really that happy with it. I'm just getting a few more details on the HV20 but I think I'll buy it as soon as it becomes available in Australia (no idea when that might be yet, not sure if canon really now either)
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I'm leaning to the HV20 also.
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Old 21-04-07, 04:20 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Yeah, it feels a bit "cheaper", but the low noise CMOS is better. That would make sense, as Canon has been using CMOS imagers in their still cameras for a few years and really invented the technology of using CMOS in high end cameras.
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anyway the latest CNET reviews rated the HC7 better than HV20, its a shocker to me, which goes aganist CCI. It says HC7 lowlight is better.
http://www.cnet.com.au/camcorders/0,...9273859,00.htm

http://reviews.cnet.com/Canon_HV20/4...tag=prod.txt.1
I don't think they took the ability to shoot 24p into consideration when they were reviewing for low light footage. I haven't shot much 24p footage, but from what I've read that is what will make the biggest difference in low light on the HV20.
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