Canon HV20 vs Sony HC7

[hyperq]

I have an Sony HC3 and always think its video quality is not as sharp as it could be. Then last year Canon HV10 blew HC3 out of water in terms of video resolution. Camcorderinfo.com tested HV10 at 631.4 x 691.1 lines, which is 27% better than 605.1 x 566 lines from HC3.

I didn't get HV10 due to a few weaknesses mentioned in that review. Now I heard that Canon will release an HV20 on April 6 2007. The HV20 has the same image sensor used in HV10, and Canon has removed most of the weaknesses in HV10.

After reading translated reviews on impress.co.jp and viewing sample still images and video footages. It looks like Canon HV20 has better image quality than Sony HC7.

Canon HV20
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/do...7/zooma294.htm

Sony HC7
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/do...4/zooma295.htm

In general, HV20 has better video resolution than HC7 from the samples. HC7 produces less details and is less sharp in comparison. Now I am leaning toward Canon HV20.

Your thoughts?

[lovehateHDV]

Go for it.

[rkn_nl]

Originally Posted by hyperq

I have an Sony HC3 and always think its video quality is not as sharp as it could be. Then last year Canon HV10 blew HC3 out of water in terms of video resolution. Camcorderinfo.com tested HV10 at 631.4 x 691.1 lines, which is 27% better than 605.1 x 566 lines from HC3.

I didn't get HV10 due to a few weaknesses mentioned in that review. Now I heard that Canon will release an HV20 on April 6 2007. The HV20 has the same image sensor used in HV10, and Canon has removed most of the weaknesses in HV10.

After reading translated reviews on impress.co.jp and viewing sample still images and video footages. It looks like Canon HV20 has better image quality than Sony HC7.

Canon HV20
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/do...7/zooma294.htm

Sony HC7
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/do...4/zooma295.htm

In general, HV20 has better video resolution than HC7 from the samples. HC7 produces less details and is less sharp in comparison. Now I am leaning toward Canon HV20.



Your thoughts?

have seen the samples of both camcorders and the hdv quality is overwhelming!If you will see the small difference between these 2 camcorders then you must connect them to an full hdtv with HDMI connection.And the Sony HC3 is also HD ready and have the same video resolution (1040 X 1080i) as the HC7 and the HV20.
only the lux rating of the HC3 is less then the HC7 and the HV20 so you need more light if you will get the same video quality as the HC7.

[sszudzik]

I'm kind of wondering a bit about these two camera's as well and am curious to see some real reviews of the HV20. Some of the main complaints I've heard about the HV20 so far is the lack of LANC. FOr me it's not necessarily a big deal, but I saw that the camera comes with a wireless remote. Wouldn't that make up for the loack of LANC for most people?

-Steve

[toni1]

I feel that persons participating in these are "hot" byers and eager to get "the best".
First I did not see on line much users videos of hc20 since its still in canon hands
second there have not been much testing reviews for the same above reasons
if I had to buy myself a cam I'll wait for some kind of nutral reviews to come out and more users opinion

[rkn_nl]

Originally Posted by sszudzik

I'm kind of wondering a bit about these two camera's as well and am curious to see some real reviews of the HV20. Some of the main complaints I've heard about the HV20 so far is the lack of LANC. FOr me it's not necessarily a big deal, but I saw that the camera comes with a wireless remote. Wouldn't that make up for the loack of LANC for most people?

-Steve

indead i think it would.The Canon HV20 has wireless remote control:

[rkn_nl]

Originally Posted by toni1

I feel that persons participating in these are "hot" byers and eager to get "the best".
First I did not see on line much users videos of hc20 since its still in canon hands
second there have not been much testing reviews for the same above reasons
if I had to buy myself a cam I'll wait for some kind of nutral reviews to come out and more users opinion

you 're right!
if you have no hurry you can wait.Maybe Canon will introduce a HV10 model with HDMI connection.But i can't wait for this because i must have an HD camcorder with a fast autofocus system with HDMI before i go to holiday this summer.And the HV20 is really good for his price i will no doubt about this:

[lovehateHDV]

2cents.


HC7 had VERY positive reviews, until it came out.

and then suddenly everybody noticed that the amount of noise the cam produced in twilight overshadowed all of the good stuff about. It's still one of the best cams so far, but not without it's downsides.

HV20 could be the same thing.

[mk_sullivan]

Originally Posted by rkn_nl

indead i think it would.The Canon HV20 has wireless remote control:

I can think of 3 reasons to use LANC where a IR remote would not cut it:

1. Tripod with start/stop & Zoom control build into the handle. I have a fairly cheap<$60 tripod I take on trips that has this feature and you would not believe how much better your footage will be. Even on a tripod, if you have your hands on the cam to start/stop and zoom, they will make noise and shake the camera. A stout tripod and no zooming will make this less of an issue, but if you are following action, your hand will be on the tripod handle.

2. Underwater housing. Many underwater housings use LANC to control the camera. They have waterproof electric switches that control camera functions. The other option is to have mechanical plungers that actuate buttons on the camera. However the plungers have to be custom for each camera and they may not be where you would want them for underwater work.

3. Remote start/stop. The Canon has analog video in. This is great for connecting to a helmet camera or other external source. If you have a LANC port you can have a remote button to start & stop recording. The standard setup is to put the camcorder in your backpack, the helmet cam on your helmet and run a remote switch with recording indicator light near or on your hand so you can start and stop recording without digging into your backpack and pulling out the camera. That get's tricky when you are on the road or the camera is in a waterproof housing.

I'd have a HV20 reserved right now if it had LANC. Sony's HC-7 doesn't have analog in, but I will use my old (LANC equiped) SD camcorder for the helmet cam type aplications so I can get along without that. The tripod and underwater/wet situations are too important to me. If Canon made some sort of housing for the <$250 price of the Sony housing, I'd be all over it.

I'm really bummed about the LANC thing. I really wan't the Canon, but it just won't be able to do what I need. (sob)

[toni1]

Compared to sd high def is already a big quality gain
In balance are your real needs compared to "maybe" better video outcome since no neutral review yet