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dlemberg · 08-03-07, 03:47 PM

Does anyone know of any videos on the web that shows the benefit of 24p.
I'm trying to decide between the hv10 and hv20 and am not sure if the extra
$500 is worth it.

Thank you

David

jaelupo · 09-03-07, 10:26 PM

There are several 24p clips on this site (look under videos). The effect is not all that noticable or great. It is just a cool effect. The main reason to get a HV20 over the HV10 would be the HDMI port and the better low light capibility. The HDMI port is a huge plus because you can transfer the video off the camera bypassing the HDV compression. Additionally you can plug the camera into a TV with just one plug vs. 5 plugs for the HV10.

dlemberg · 10-03-07, 12:56 AM

Thanks for the helpful advice. It makes my purchasing decision much easier

David

mguy18 · 10-03-07, 01:46 AM

Sorry for the question as I a complete beginner, but what is 24p? The only info I can find is that it is 'cinematic'. I'm assuming that if the camera does 1080i, switching to this doesn't turn it into 1080p does it?

jaelupo · 10-03-07, 02:11 AM

24p is 24 frames per second filmed in progressive scanning (not interlaced). This is typically how Motion Picture moves are shot. That is how you get a "cinematic" feel to your movie.

jaelupo · 10-03-07, 02:13 AM

Dlemberg,

One more point on the HDMI bypassing the HDV compression; this has to be done live not after the fact. So you must have a laptop or sometype of computer hooked up to the camera while recording. Additionally, the HDMI cards for your computer are about $250. I hope this helps.

RTRT · 01-04-07, 01:42 PM

Pinacle cards - 210$

Mistrz Koala · 06-04-07, 10:03 PM

As I understand there is no posibility to switch HV10 into progressive scan mode other 24p mode ? This is only possible with the HV20 model ?

RTRT · 06-04-07, 10:26 PM

It is not, it is progressive scan mode 25p, but only HV-20.

Luke · 07-04-07, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlemberg

Does anyone know of any videos on the web that shows the benefit of 24p.
I'm trying to decide between the hv10 and hv20 and am not sure if the extra
$500 is worth it.

Thank you

David

The real benefit I see is definitely low-light. Using the 24p mode you do get much better low-light coverage. Otherwise in daylight looking at other people's footage, it's about the same quality but you do get weird artifacts (warping) if you move too quickly. So I would use it only for low-light and mix it in with 60i (since I don't produce movies just vacation shots:-)).

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09-03-07, 10:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
jaelupo Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 85 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	There are several 24p clips on this site (look under videos). The effect is not all that noticable or great. It is just a cool effect. The main reason to get a HV20 over the HV10 would be the HDMI port and the better low light capibility. The HDMI port is a huge plus because you can transfer the video off the camera bypassing the HDV compression. Additionally you can plug the camera into a TV with just one plug vs. 5 plugs for the HV10.

10-03-07, 12:56 AM	#3 (permalink)
dlemberg Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the helpful advice. It makes my purchasing decision much easier David

10-03-07, 01:46 AM	#4 (permalink)
mguy18 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sorry for the question as I a complete beginner, but what is 24p? The only info I can find is that it is 'cinematic'. I'm assuming that if the camera does 1080i, switching to this doesn't turn it into 1080p does it?

10-03-07, 02:11 AM	#5 (permalink)
jaelupo Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 85 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	24p is 24 frames per second filmed in progressive scanning (not interlaced). This is typically how Motion Picture moves are shot. That is how you get a "cinematic" feel to your movie.

10-03-07, 02:13 AM	#6 (permalink)
jaelupo Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 85 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Dlemberg, One more point on the HDMI bypassing the HDV compression; this has to be done live not after the fact. So you must have a laptop or sometype of computer hooked up to the camera while recording. Additionally, the HDMI cards for your computer are about $250. I hope this helps.

01-04-07, 01:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
RTRT Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: latvia Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Pinacle cards - 210$

06-04-07, 10:03 PM	#8 (permalink)
Mistrz Koala Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Poland Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	As I understand there is no posibility to switch HV10 into progressive scan mode other 24p mode ? This is only possible with the HV20 model ?

06-04-07, 10:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
RTRT Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: latvia Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It is not, it is progressive scan mode 25p, but only HV-20.