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SAT-WORLD · 13-05-06, 11:19 PM

@ Analoguesat

Eeeeewwww,I wouldn't want to touch the sim,never mind sell it.
I just wish the retailerswould keep it themselves,and just give me the cam.

@Mickha

Are you telling me that the use of my Sky card in the dragon cam is not legal,if so it's a route I don't want to take then.
I have been made aware I'll have to refresh the Sky card in the digibox.
I am also aware that channels can be deleted and have done so!,on a fta receiver,but that's the beauty of a fta receiver,is it not,you can create and recreate your own personalised channel list.
You certainly haven't put me off,in fact your sympathetic understanding of my requirements has definitely helped.(I thought I would be laughed or flamed off the forum,for my standpoint)

Many Thanks to all.

BGonaSTICK · 14-05-06, 01:36 AM

You certainly won't get flamed here for your views on satellite equipment.

I understand your thoughts on the automatic inclusion of porn stuff with hardware, and personally find it a little strange too.

I don't have a problem with it, but you wouldn't expect to go to Tesco for a pint of milk and get a free porno mag would you?

ops:

Unfortunately the legality of the Dragon CAM supporting the Sky card has never (to my knowledge) been tested in a court of law. I wouldn't like to say which way it would go, as it's a legitimate card after all.

The problem is that the Predator software you would have to load to do that would also provide extra functionality that IF USED to decrypt other pay-tv without subscription most certainly would be illegal. Just having it on the CAM may or may not be though.

I'm not a legal expert, but if you want to guarantee legality, then you must stick to either FTA, buy a subscription card and insert it in a non-patched receiver's card reader slot, or get the Sky UK FTV card and stick it an original Sky digibox.

Regards,

STICK

Analoguesat · 14-05-06, 09:42 AM

Whilst most sellers provide the INXTC Channel card free, it looks like

_http://www.dvb-shop24.net/product_info.php/info/p141_T-REX-with-Dragon-Loader-card.html

sells just the cam and its loader card.

SAT-WORLD · 14-05-06, 12:40 PM

@BGonaSTICK

I should have stated that I have 2 digiboxes with viewing cards,so viewing the channels and recording to video is not an issue.
It is simply for recording the ftv channels to the fta satellite pvr,(which has not been modified in any way),that led me to enquire about the dragon cam.

@Analoguesat

Thanks for the link,knew you would come up the goods.
Though,I think I'll stick to recording to video.

Thanks guys

13-05-06, 11:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
SAT-WORLD Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,656 Thanks: 19 Thanked 246 Times in 215 Posts	Re: Dragon cams and cards @ Analoguesat Eeeeewwww,I wouldn't want to touch the sim,never mind sell it. I just wish the retailerswould keep it themselves,and just give me the cam. @Mickha Are you telling me that the use of my Sky card in the dragon cam is not legal,if so it's a route I don't want to take then. I have been made aware I'll have to refresh the Sky card in the digibox. I am also aware that channels can be deleted and have done so!,on a fta receiver,but that's the beauty of a fta receiver,is it not,you can create and recreate your own personalised channel list. You certainly haven't put me off,in fact your sympathetic understanding of my requirements has definitely helped.(I thought I would be laughed or flamed off the forum,for my standpoint) Many Thanks to all.

14-05-06, 01:36 AM	#12 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Dodgy Geezer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 9,718 Thanks: 3 Thanked 163 Times in 57 Posts	Re: Dragon cams and cards You certainly won't get flamed here for your views on satellite equipment. I understand your thoughts on the automatic inclusion of porn stuff with hardware, and personally find it a little strange too. I don't have a problem with it, but you wouldn't expect to go to Tesco for a pint of milk and get a free porno mag would you? ops: Unfortunately the legality of the Dragon CAM supporting the Sky card has never (to my knowledge) been tested in a court of law. I wouldn't like to say which way it would go, as it's a legitimate card after all. The problem is that the Predator software you would have to load to do that would also provide extra functionality that IF USED to decrypt other pay-tv without subscription most certainly would be illegal. Just having it on the CAM may or may not be though. I'm not a legal expert, but if you want to guarantee legality, then you must stick to either FTA, buy a subscription card and insert it in a non-patched receiver's card reader slot, or get the Sky UK FTV card and stick it an original Sky digibox. Regards, STICK __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

14-05-06, 09:42 AM	#13 (permalink)
Analoguesat manic midlander retired mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 11,668 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1,334 Times in 985 Posts	Re: Dragon cams and cards Whilst most sellers provide the INXTC Channel card free, it looks like _http://www.dvb-shop24.net/product_info.php/info/p141_T-REX-with-Dragon-Loader-card.html sells just the cam and its loader card. __________________ Basic forum rules for both satellite & cable: no keys no patches no offering or asking for card shares Anyone pm'ing me for details of card sharing or anything to do with hacking cable will be banned immediately Analogue forever!!

14-05-06, 12:40 PM	#14 (permalink)
SAT-WORLD Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,656 Thanks: 19 Thanked 246 Times in 215 Posts	Re: Dragon cams and cards @BGonaSTICK I should have stated that I have 2 digiboxes with viewing cards,so viewing the channels and recording to video is not an issue. It is simply for recording the ftv channels to the fta satellite pvr,(which has not been modified in any way),that led me to enquire about the dragon cam. @Analoguesat Thanks for the link,knew you would come up the goods. Though,I think I'll stick to recording to video. Thanks guys