if i had a blockage in way of dish, would i get no signal at all.....

[chavslav]

back to my 16 east problem, 1500ci ,if i had a blockage, i should get no signal.

i suspect a chimney or even another dish.

but i'm picking up stations on 16 east,

alsat rtv,premium digital,m2,planeta,kanal3,evropa tv,zdrave,hit tv,gtv,btv,btv 5, are just a few up to a total of 35 channels.

this might be long winded, but on transponder list,all signal level is 97% on every tp, this is the quality levels.


TP 1, 11.046 H 10.555 97% LEVEL 20% QUALITY.
TP 2, 10.962 H 3.146 7%-13% FLUCTUATING.
TP 3, 11.025 H 2.894 7%-13% FLUCTUATING.
TP 4, 10.957 H 2.821 24%-26% FLUCTUATING
TP 5, 11.062 H 2.929 2%-7% FLUCTUATING.
TP 6,11.092 V 32.000 14%-19% FLUCTUATING
TP 7, 11.184 H 2.667 3%-11% FLUCTUATING
TP 8, 11.304 V 30.000 64%-65% GOOD QUALITY,
TP 9, 11.449 H 27.500 73% STABLE GOOD QUALITY
TP 10,11.471 V 29.950 66%-68% FLUCTUATING GOOD QUALITY
TP 11, 11.513 V 28.800 7%- 25% FLUCTUATING
TP 12,11.634 V 17.578 6%-15% FLUCTUATING
TP 13, 11.659 V 17.578 6-8% FLUCTUATING
TP 14, 12.563 V 2.222 63% STABLE GOOD QUALITY
TP 15, 12.623 V 2.893 2-7% FLUCTUATING
TP 16 12.633 V 4.883 60% GOOD QUALITY
TP 17, 12.656 V 4.883 69% GOOD QUALITY
TP 18, 12.675 V 4.444 2-7% FLUCTUATING
TP 19, 12.683 H 2.894 5- 19% FLUCTUATING
TP 20, 12.692 V 3.798 69% GOOD QUALITY, SIGNAL LEVEL DOWN TO 89%
TP 21, 12.707 V 3.255 2-7% FLUCTUATING, SIGNAL LEVEL DOWN TO 89%
TP 22, 12.725 V 3.418 2 - 7% FLUCTUATING, SIGNAL LEVEL DOWN TO 89%
TP 23 12.716V 9.913 AS ABOVE
TP 24, 11.02 V 2.894 AS ABOVE.


WITH A BLOCKAGE, I THOUGHT I WOULD GET NOTHING, but some transponders are coming through, could someone check theres,to see if what i've got is correct frequencies.

the maximum amount of channels i can get on 16 east is 35 channels.

i'll try and upload photos if i can do it, so someone can see if i'm obstructed.


thanks for any replies.

oh by the way, i can get 7 east 10 east,13 east and 5 east no problem, all good signal.

[BGonaSTICK]

Yes, I agree. If you had a total obstruction, you would get nothing. If you had a partial obstruction, you would get a lower than normal signal. A waving tree for example, could give you a wildly fluctuating signal.

I'll spend some time later this morning checking your transponder findings above and make a note of all my readings for you to compare

[chavslav]

thanks stick, only seems to be 16 east, is there a possibility that 16 east is missing the arc, or would all my other sats be affected ?

[Jimdefruit]

Hi Chavslav,
There are about 50-60 useful channels on 16E but a lot of them do not transmit all the time. On transponder 11092 V 32000 5/6 you should be getting about a dozen Digitalb channels. They are all encrypted and I am not sure if you have a Digitalb card. However, you should still show strong signal all the time.

My own signal strength is 86% and 50% quality.

The Digitalb channels are very critical in the vertical alignment plane. Dont ask me why but I had to raise and lower my dish just a smidgeon to give a marked change in signal strength. This was even though I had excellent signals on 13E and 19.2E.

You dont mention 19.2E in your list of sats. Are you getting that sat, if not it could be that your arc is slightly out and 16E is not quite aligned. The channels you list do tend to have stronger signals.

[BGonaSTICK]

Yeah, 16E can be a tricky wotsit.

It's certainly true to say that different transponders on the same satellite can be peaked at very slightly different azimuth settings. If I adjust my dish via the motor to peak the signal on one transponder, it can reduce the signal on another. As Jim says, there is an equally good advantage to be had by making the smallest adjustments to your elevation, but that requires ladders and I'm to lazy to do that every time I change channel! ops:

Because of that, if I want to watch something on with a very low signal, I'll adjust the dish azimuth (with my motor), to get the best signal possible.

What Jim's saying, I believe, is that it's more critical to get your elevation spot-on with 16E that with other satellites for some reason, so if 16E is important to you for Digitalb reasons, then it might be worth perfecting your elevation setting at that location, and let everything else go out by a little bit.

[chavslav]

hi , thanks for replies jim and stick.

is it easy to change elevation,with motor, do i use usals to do this?

or should i physically go up ladder, and tilt elevation?

[chavslav]

jim yes,

good signals on 19 east and 28..

[Mickha]

Hi chavslav,
what size dish are you using and what is your approximate location, as these have big influences on what kind of signal you can get, the signal strength on DigitAlb seems lower than previous, now I've just checked, I am getting Fox Sports, 11021 H 2894, at the same strength as DigitAlb, and this is a difficult channel to clear with smaller dishes.
My Music, on 11092 V 32000, is currently unencrypted and should give you a chance to fine tune the DigitAlb signal.
Please post back with your signal strengths for Fox Sports, 11021 H 2894 and the information regarding your dish size and location.
Best wishes
Mickha

[chavslav]

hi michka,

thanks for reply dish iss 90cm, mti high gain twin lnb, 1500ci stb, location east london 0.00 51.00,

11021 h 2.894 just added getting 7% max on quality, 97% strength..

should i get up ladder, and have a go, i can see tv from top of steps, the only thing is i don't want to put meself off the arc, as noah said

[chavslav]

hi mickha,

apologies for spelling mistake in previous post.

is it worth me trying to peak my signal on 5 east sirius.

i'm currently getting 97% and 69% quality.

this is the closest satellite south that i can get, i don't get nothing west.