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imported_Barry · 07-08-06, 05:30 PM

have just installed a 80cm dish to try and get the art sport packages off hotbird. the only signal i have been able to receive so far is off astra 1 at 19 e. i have moved the dish angle to approximatly the right direction but there is only a very, very faint signal(lot`s of interference and you can`t make out any picture on screen only a faint outline). i have just been to my local shop to get a satellite finder but they had none in so until i can get my hands on one i was wondering if anyone had any advice of anything i could try like adjusting the vertical elevation as i`m fairly new to this and don`t have much idea at the minute?

any help greatly appreciated.

Analoguesat · 07-08-06, 05:40 PM

Hi Barry - welcome to the forum. :welc2:

First of all mark your 19E start location on the dish mountings with pencil mark - then if you get hopelessly lost you have a location you can easily start from again!

To get to 13E you need to move the lnb 3-4 inches to the left (when you are standing in front of the dish and raise the lnb elevation about half an inch or so. Make sure you have a nice strong transponder tuned in to home in on - 10979 H 27500 3/4 on Hotbird 7A is a decent signal. When you get a strong signal try scanning it - you should get a load of Italians and some other stuff. Once you get to this point tweak the dish again using 12015H. (the ART frequency - its a bit weaker than the others at 13E for some reason.)

Mark the mounting points again - just in case you knock it - we have all done it!

Jimdefruit · 07-08-06, 05:58 PM

Hi Barry, welcome.
Is there any way you can see your screen while you are moving your dish because you will get a much better Idea of the signal that way rather than using a meter.

A meter tells you that you have a signal but it does not tell you which satellite.

imported_Barry · 07-08-06, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Analoguesat

Hi Barry - welcome to the forum. :welc2:

First of all mark your 19E start location on the dish mountings with pencil mark - then if you get hopelessly lost you have a location you can easily start from again!

To get to 13E you need to move the lnb 3-4 inches to the left (when you are standing in front of the dish and raise the lnb elevation about half an inch or so. Make sure you have a nice strong transponder tuned in to home in on - 10979 H 27500 3/4 on Hotbird 7A is a decent signal. When you get a strong signal try scanning it - you should get a load of Italians and some other stuff. Once you get to this point tweak the dish again using 12015H. (the ART frequency - its a bit weaker than the others at 13E for some reason.)

Mark the mounting points again - just in case you knock it - we have all done it!

thanks. i`m gonna have to try this when my housemate gets home, that way one of us can see the screen and the other can be up the ladder. at the minute i`m only using the free to air channel receiver which came with the satellite package (it looks a very basic non-branded, generic receiver) to get it set up then i`m gonna get the receiver with the card slots to get the art sport channels once i know i can get the signal.

imported_Barry · 16-08-06, 08:45 PM

thanks for your previous advice

i have finally got the dish aligned and am getting a signal off hotbird and have received the art sports card in the post but when i put the card in the slot and go to the art sports channel i get a message "card error please check card". now the receiver i have is (i think) just a viaccess receiver and i notice that the art card is encrypted with viaccess 2, does this mean i`ll have to get a viaccess 2 cam to view the channel using the receiver i have or is it maybe just a dodgy card?

any more advice would be welcome

Analoguesat · 16-08-06, 09:08 PM

Can you give us the make and model number of the receiver, and we will see what we can find out about it - its quite possible it doesnt have Viaccess built into it.

imported_Barry · 16-08-06, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Analoguesat

Can you give us the make and model number of the receiver, and we will see what we can find out about it - its quite possible it doesnt have Viaccess built into it.

it`s made by a company called comag. purchased from maplins. heres the link to the page on maplins website:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?...16m8&source=15

thanks

BGonaSTICK · 16-08-06, 10:56 PM

Yes, although the receiver says Viaccess, maybe it's only Viaccess1 capable. A Red Viaccess 2 CAM in the CI slot will probably fix it, or maybe you could return the receiver and replace it with one that is compatable?

Viaccess 2 CAMs go for around £40, so it's up to you.

It's unlikely to be the card, unless you bought a dodgy (or expired) one off eBay.

imported_Barry · 17-08-06, 12:00 AM

when you say a red viaccess 2 cam, is red a make of cam or a specific type of compatibillity(i take it it`s not just referring to the coloour of the case)?

Jimdefruit · 17-08-06, 12:09 AM

Just a quick thought Barry, have you tried the card in with the chip facing down as well as facing up.

Some receivers including the Dreambox need the chip facing down whilst a few others need the chip facing up.

07-08-06, 05:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
imported_Barry Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	any chance of a little advice? have just installed a 80cm dish to try and get the art sport packages off hotbird. the only signal i have been able to receive so far is off astra 1 at 19 e. i have moved the dish angle to approximatly the right direction but there is only a very, very faint signal(lot`s of interference and you can`t make out any picture on screen only a faint outline). i have just been to my local shop to get a satellite finder but they had none in so until i can get my hands on one i was wondering if anyone had any advice of anything i could try like adjusting the vertical elevation as i`m fairly new to this and don`t have much idea at the minute? any help greatly appreciated.

07-08-06, 05:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
Analoguesat satellite expert Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 8,302 Thanks: 10 Thanked 269 Times in 241 Posts	Re: any chance of a little advice? Hi Barry - welcome to the forum. :welc2: First of all mark your 19E start location on the dish mountings with pencil mark - then if you get hopelessly lost you have a location you can easily start from again! To get to 13E you need to move the lnb 3-4 inches to the left (when you are standing in front of the dish and raise the lnb elevation about half an inch or so. Make sure you have a nice strong transponder tuned in to home in on - 10979 H 27500 3/4 on Hotbird 7A is a decent signal. When you get a strong signal try scanning it - you should get a load of Italians and some other stuff. Once you get to this point tweak the dish again using 12015H. (the ART frequency - its a bit weaker than the others at 13E for some reason.) Mark the mounting points again - just in case you knock it - we have all done it! __________________ To all the cable boys - do not post: keys of any sort firmware for receivers links to sites carrying files, keys or fixes Read the rules before you post - click here to read them

07-08-06, 05:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jimdefruit Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,775 Thanks: 10 Thanked 113 Times in 105 Posts	Re: any chance of a little advice? Hi Barry, welcome. Is there any way you can see your screen while you are moving your dish because you will get a much better Idea of the signal that way rather than using a meter. A meter tells you that you have a signal but it does not tell you which satellite. __________________ Dreambox 800 HD; Dreambox 7000s + VBox + Channel Master 1.2 with 36v actuator CM120 feedhorn and Invacom .3 LNB Skystar 2 PCI card with links to my Dreambox If you like what you see here, tell your friends.

16-08-06, 08:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
imported_Barry Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: any chance of a little advice? thanks for your previous advice i have finally got the dish aligned and am getting a signal off hotbird and have received the art sports card in the post but when i put the card in the slot and go to the art sports channel i get a message "card error please check card". now the receiver i have is (i think) just a viaccess receiver and i notice that the art card is encrypted with viaccess 2, does this mean i`ll have to get a viaccess 2 cam to view the channel using the receiver i have or is it maybe just a dodgy card? any more advice would be welcome

16-08-06, 09:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
Analoguesat satellite expert Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 8,302 Thanks: 10 Thanked 269 Times in 241 Posts	Re: any chance of a little advice? Can you give us the make and model number of the receiver, and we will see what we can find out about it - its quite possible it doesnt have Viaccess built into it. __________________ To all the cable boys - do not post: keys of any sort firmware for receivers links to sites carrying files, keys or fixes Read the rules before you post - click here to read them


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16-08-06, 10:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Super Murderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 10,633 Thanks: 3 Thanked 64 Times in 37 Posts	Re: any chance of a little advice? Yes, although the receiver says Viaccess, maybe it's only Viaccess1 capable. A Red Viaccess 2 CAM in the CI slot will probably fix it, or maybe you could return the receiver and replace it with one that is compatable? Viaccess 2 CAMs go for around £40, so it's up to you. It's unlikely to be the card, unless you bought a dodgy (or expired) one off eBay. __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

17-08-06, 12:00 AM	#9 (permalink)
imported_Barry Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: any chance of a little advice? when you say a red viaccess 2 cam, is red a make of cam or a specific type of compatibillity(i take it it`s not just referring to the coloour of the case)?

17-08-06, 12:09 AM	#10 (permalink)
Jimdefruit Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,775 Thanks: 10 Thanked 113 Times in 105 Posts	Re: any chance of a little advice? Just a quick thought Barry, have you tried the card in with the chip facing down as well as facing up. Some receivers including the Dreambox need the chip facing down whilst a few others need the chip facing up. __________________ Dreambox 800 HD; Dreambox 7000s + VBox + Channel Master 1.2 with 36v actuator CM120 feedhorn and Invacom .3 LNB Skystar 2 PCI card with links to my Dreambox If you like what you see here, tell your friends.