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Chrisuk · 14-09-06, 03:27 PM

Excellent

I take it I could get the T&K brackets from any DIY type shops such as B&Q, Maplins etc ??

Do I definately need the 2" Steel pole, is the 1" & 1.5" too small/not secure ?

ps Stick - really appreciate your help mate today

Analoguesat · 14-09-06, 03:44 PM

2" gives you plenty of structural strength. You do NOT want a dish to come adrift or snap its pole in a winter gale. You would be looking at a major insurance claim if it hit someone in the face!

Ive heard of cases where dishes have come off a wall in a gale - one is known to have demolished a greenhouse 5 miles away

BGonaSTICK · 14-09-06, 03:56 PM

Yes, I believe Maplins do them.

TLC do the nice galvanised ones, and at a price that I couldn't match elsewhere. They look really ugly if they rust, and leave horrible rust-coloured streaks down your brickwork

You're welcome to the advice. That's what we do

Keep us up to date with your project, and please upload some pics when you're done

Chrisuk · 14-09-06, 04:46 PM

Looks like I'll get my T&K brackets from there then- but I'll have to find somewhere else for the pole, TLC only do ally poles from what I can see

$ly · 14-09-06, 05:02 PM

You only need a short length of scaffold.
Find a building site and offer the guy a beer for a 4ft or 6ft pole.

L.

Chrisuk · 14-09-06, 08:32 PM

Right - had a little look at the roof setup, and the neighbours roof is higher than in my previous pic.

I think this would make it difficult to mount the sat nearer the side of the house, rather than at the very top of my apex

Would it be possible to us the T&K brackets in a more central position & use a longer pole to secure the dish so it can be elevated up the center of the house, but secured lower down & not at the "weak" point of the apex ?

Thanks again

BGonaSTICK · 15-09-06, 12:32 AM

Yeah sure - mount it in the middle, or even on the right hand side.

Don't forget, the signal comes in from way up high - if the roof is as drawn in your second pic, that still looks OK.

With the T&K you have a lot of flexibility. Start with a longer pole, have the excess hanging out the bottom of the lower clamp. You can raise or lower the pole with the dish mounted on top and find the lowest point at you can still see the whole arc. Cut off the excess when your done.

There's no point having it an inch higher than it needs to be. After all, the satellites certainly aren't going to move, and unless your house is subsiding, neither is your dish

STICK

Jimdefruit · 15-09-06, 11:31 AM

If you live in an area that may have strict planning control, check out the regulations posted here http://www.satellitehelp.co.uk/forum...php?topic=16.0.

The dish must not be above the roof ridge unless there is a higher chimney.

Unless there is a building near you that is higher than your house, it should not be necessary to install a dish above the house roof line. In fact it would be a bad idea because the dish would be battered by winds.

Chrisuk · 15-09-06, 12:01 PM

Hi mate,

But if I didn;t install it above the roof line, when pointing to certain sats, it would be directly facing my roof !!

You would not be able to see the dish form the front of the house - I've gone through every available locality for the dish, and that is the ONLY place I can put it to recieve the full arc of sats !!

Even in the back garden, I think it would be too close to the rear of the house to get a decent signal (if any).

Jimdefruit · 15-09-06, 12:34 PM

Ok, if its out of sight, you probably wont have trouble from the planning people anyway.

However it will be very exposed to winds and it might be worth keeping an eye on bad weather forcasts so you can motor the dish to a safe angle.

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Chrisuk Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 77 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Newbie System Help ! Excellent I take it I could get the T&K brackets from any DIY type shops such as B&Q, Maplins etc ?? Do I definately need the 2" Steel pole, is the 1" & 1.5" too small/not secure ? ps Stick - really appreciate your help mate today

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14-09-06, 08:32 PM	#26 (permalink)
Chrisuk Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 77 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Newbie System Help ! Right - had a little look at the roof setup, and the neighbours roof is higher than in my previous pic. I think this would make it difficult to mount the sat nearer the side of the house, rather than at the very top of my apex Would it be possible to us the T&K brackets in a more central position & use a longer pole to secure the dish so it can be elevated up the center of the house, but secured lower down & not at the "weak" point of the apex ? Thanks again

15-09-06, 12:32 AM	#27 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Super Murderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 10,633 Thanks: 3 Thanked 64 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Newbie System Help ! Yeah sure - mount it in the middle, or even on the right hand side. Don't forget, the signal comes in from way up high - if the roof is as drawn in your second pic, that still looks OK. With the T&K you have a lot of flexibility. Start with a longer pole, have the excess hanging out the bottom of the lower clamp. You can raise or lower the pole with the dish mounted on top and find the lowest point at you can still see the whole arc. Cut off the excess when your done. There's no point having it an inch higher than it needs to be. After all, the satellites certainly aren't going to move, and unless your house is subsiding, neither is your dish STICK __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

15-09-06, 11:31 AM	#28 (permalink)
Jimdefruit Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,775 Thanks: 10 Thanked 113 Times in 105 Posts	Re: Newbie System Help ! If you live in an area that may have strict planning control, check out the regulations posted here http://www.satellitehelp.co.uk/forum...php?topic=16.0. The dish must not be above the roof ridge unless there is a higher chimney. Unless there is a building near you that is higher than your house, it should not be necessary to install a dish above the house roof line. In fact it would be a bad idea because the dish would be battered by winds. __________________ Dreambox 800 HD; Dreambox 7000s + VBox + Channel Master 1.2 with 36v actuator CM120 feedhorn and Invacom .3 LNB Skystar 2 PCI card with links to my Dreambox If you like what you see here, tell your friends.

15-09-06, 12:01 PM	#29 (permalink)
Chrisuk Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 77 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Newbie System Help ! Hi mate, But if I didn;t install it above the roof line, when pointing to certain sats, it would be directly facing my roof !! You would not be able to see the dish form the front of the house - I've gone through every available locality for the dish, and that is the ONLY place I can put it to recieve the full arc of sats !! Even in the back garden, I think it would be too close to the rear of the house to get a decent signal (if any).

15-09-06, 12:34 PM	#30 (permalink)
Jimdefruit Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,775 Thanks: 10 Thanked 113 Times in 105 Posts	Re: Newbie System Help ! Ok, if its out of sight, you probably wont have trouble from the planning people anyway. However it will be very exposed to winds and it might be worth keeping an eye on bad weather forcasts so you can motor the dish to a safe angle. __________________ Dreambox 800 HD; Dreambox 7000s + VBox + Channel Master 1.2 with 36v actuator CM120 feedhorn and Invacom .3 LNB Skystar 2 PCI card with links to my Dreambox If you like what you see here, tell your friends.