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Analoguesat · 18-09-06, 09:28 PM

According to the German language Transponder News website Hottie 3 will be moving to 10E.

Interestingly the contributor indicates 10E will become an "Italian Eurobird" position.

Will she be renamed Eurobird 4?

Does this mean the loss of many of the Italian channels off 13E????

BGonaSTICK · 19-09-06, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Analoguesat

Does this mean the loss of many of the Italian channels off 13E????

Sounds a possibility, doesn't it? Wonder what (who) the driving factors behind that initiative are?

Analoguesat · 19-09-06, 07:44 AM

It may be cynical of me but if Eutelsat can clear some of the rubbish cluttering up 13E theres much more space for lucrative HDTV transmissions.

Analoguesat · 19-09-06, 07:50 AM

I wonder if we will lose the new channels? When Hotbirds 4 & 5 were relocated the UK lost all coverage from them thanks to reconfigured footprints.........

BGonaSTICK · 19-09-06, 10:29 AM

I would have thought that Eutelsat would want to increase the number of Italian DTH dishes at 13E as far as possible. I can't see the benefits of a split (for the providers), as you effectively reduce the size of your available customer base. Mr Murdoch and the Sky Italia crew won't be happy. Unless, of course... they have plans at 10E :?

It's not as if Eutelsat are running down capacity at their premier location, so offloading some channels for that reason could be a stop-gap measure. With Hotbird 8 about to go live, and Hotbird 9 on order you think they'd want all the European stuff in one place, no matter how crappy. If they don't have enough capacity for planned HD goodies, then why not leave Hotbird 3 where it is?

:? :? :?

Analoguesat · 19-09-06, 12:25 PM

Lack of available frequencies at 13E at a guess. HB8 will be able to cover 102 different frequencies / tp's (64 at the same time) HB8 is replacement capacity, not additional.

Eutelsat is really cranking up replacement satellite building - they have at least 4 sats on order at the moment for various slots around the arc

BGonaSTICK · 19-09-06, 01:07 PM

Ah, yes, frequencies. Good point. I guess that with Hotbird 9, they'll pretty much have every frequency slot covered and 100% backup redundancy too. Expensive business this!

In that case, why don't they park H9 up at 10E and use it for non-domestic/non-critical or whatever and squirt it over three degrees when everything goes pear-shaped?

Having all that expensive gear sitting up there just twiddling its thumbs is nuts.

LOL, good job I'm not in charge, they'd go out of business overnight :roflmao:

Analoguesat · 19-09-06, 01:19 PM

By the time HB9 is in service, everything below 8 will be more or less redundant

HB1 is off air
HB2 is need ing replace ment but could have the load taken by HB8
HB3 is soon to be moved as shes being replaced by HB8
HB4 is at 7W
HB5 is at 25.5E
HB6 will be covered by HB8 & 9
HB7A could be replacde by HB8 & 9

18-09-06, 09:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
Analoguesat manic midlander retired mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 11,668 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1,339 Times in 990 Posts	New home for Hottie 3 provisionally identified According to the German language Transponder News website Hottie 3 will be moving to 10E. Interestingly the contributor indicates 10E will become an "Italian Eurobird" position. Will she be renamed Eurobird 4? Does this mean the loss of many of the Italian channels off 13E???? __________________ Basic forum rules for both satellite & cable: no keys no patches no offering or asking for card shares Anyone pm'ing me for details of card sharing or anything to do with hacking cable will be banned immediately Analogue forever!!

19-09-06, 07:44 AM	#3 (permalink)
Analoguesat manic midlander retired mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 11,668 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1,339 Times in 990 Posts	Re: New home for Hottie 3 provisionally identified It may be cynical of me but if Eutelsat can clear some of the rubbish cluttering up 13E theres much more space for lucrative HDTV transmissions. __________________ Basic forum rules for both satellite & cable: no keys no patches no offering or asking for card shares Anyone pm'ing me for details of card sharing or anything to do with hacking cable will be banned immediately Analogue forever!!

19-09-06, 07:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
Analoguesat manic midlander retired mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 11,668 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1,339 Times in 990 Posts	Re: New home for Hottie 3 provisionally identified I wonder if we will lose the new channels? When Hotbirds 4 & 5 were relocated the UK lost all coverage from them thanks to reconfigured footprints......... __________________ Basic forum rules for both satellite & cable: no keys no patches no offering or asking for card shares Anyone pm'ing me for details of card sharing or anything to do with hacking cable will be banned immediately Analogue forever!!

19-09-06, 10:29 AM	#5 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Dodgy Geezer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 9,718 Thanks: 3 Thanked 166 Times in 60 Posts	Re: New home for Hottie 3 provisionally identified I would have thought that Eutelsat would want to increase the number of Italian DTH dishes at 13E as far as possible. I can't see the benefits of a split (for the providers), as you effectively reduce the size of your available customer base. Mr Murdoch and the Sky Italia crew won't be happy. Unless, of course... they have plans at 10E :? It's not as if Eutelsat are running down capacity at their premier location, so offloading some channels for that reason could be a stop-gap measure. With Hotbird 8 about to go live, and Hotbird 9 on order you think they'd want all the European stuff in one place, no matter how crappy. If they don't have enough capacity for planned HD goodies, then why not leave Hotbird 3 where it is? :? :? :? __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

19-09-06, 12:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Analoguesat manic midlander retired mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 11,668 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1,339 Times in 990 Posts	Re: New home for Hottie 3 provisionally identified Lack of available frequencies at 13E at a guess. HB8 will be able to cover 102 different frequencies / tp's (64 at the same time) HB8 is replacement capacity, not additional. Eutelsat is really cranking up replacement satellite building - they have at least 4 sats on order at the moment for various slots around the arc __________________ Basic forum rules for both satellite & cable: no keys no patches no offering or asking for card shares Anyone pm'ing me for details of card sharing or anything to do with hacking cable will be banned immediately Analogue forever!!

19-09-06, 01:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Dodgy Geezer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 9,718 Thanks: 3 Thanked 166 Times in 60 Posts	Re: New home for Hottie 3 provisionally identified Ah, yes, frequencies. Good point. I guess that with Hotbird 9, they'll pretty much have every frequency slot covered and 100% backup redundancy too. Expensive business this! In that case, why don't they park H9 up at 10E and use it for non-domestic/non-critical or whatever and squirt it over three degrees when everything goes pear-shaped? Having all that expensive gear sitting up there just twiddling its thumbs is nuts. LOL, good job I'm not in charge, they'd go out of business overnight :roflmao: __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

19-09-06, 01:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
Analoguesat manic midlander retired mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 11,668 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1,339 Times in 990 Posts	Re: New home for Hottie 3 provisionally identified By the time HB9 is in service, everything below 8 will be more or less redundant HB1 is off air HB2 is need ing replace ment but could have the load taken by HB8 HB3 is soon to be moved as shes being replaced by HB8 HB4 is at 7W HB5 is at 25.5E HB6 will be covered by HB8 & 9 HB7A could be replacde by HB8 & 9 __________________ Basic forum rules for both satellite & cable: no keys no patches no offering or asking for card shares Anyone pm'ing me for details of card sharing or anything to do with hacking cable will be banned immediately Analogue forever!!