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Analoguesat · 21-09-06, 08:52 AM

I thought dreamboxes were supposed to have sensitive tuners??.

Well my 7020S is bloody awful

- the Technomate and the Echostar run rings round it. I cant get a sniff of the Fox Sports tp on 16E - the Echo at least has a go at displaying it even though it breaks up badly. :?

Also every time it rains I get really bad picture breakup and jitter. By 11pm last night it got very close to being ebayed - it was pouring with rain and every satellite on all images was totally unwatchable.

(5E / 13E / 16E / 19E - so not as if I was trying to watch underpowered weaklings)

Not impressed.

Analoguesat · 21-09-06, 10:18 AM

I'll redo the flashdrive images over the weekend in case they have got corrupted somewhere..

BGonaSTICK · 21-09-06, 10:34 AM

The 7000 tuner is quite deaf, the 7020 better - but they're certainly not known for having sensitive tuners.

I don't have any problems 99% of the time, and if I need to squeeze a weak signal out of the sky, I use my SS2. It's not the best but it's OK.

Your problems do sound a bit extreme. I've never lost 13E or 19E in any weather on my TD88, but then it never rains down here

Jimdefruit · 21-09-06, 03:09 PM

You cant go by the readings given as % snr and agc. My Dreambox 7000 always shows a much lower value than my Echostar but gives a better picture.

In your case I dont think it is the receiver so much as the dish alignment if all sats are poor. Or you have a faulty or poor tuner.

Analoguesat · 21-09-06, 03:48 PM

Its a fine and sunny evenning today so i'll give it another go.

Analoguesat · 23-09-06, 11:55 AM

Well Ive found That its not lack of signal causing the problems. I had 90% + signal on all 4 dishes last night - and total break up on all channels on 3 images (Enigma / Pli / Gemini) Im putting the DB back to its out of the box configuration to see if that fixes it.

Jimdefruit · 23-09-06, 02:16 PM

Which sat and channels? Or is it all.
Do you have a poor signal quality?

Analoguesat · 23-09-06, 02:20 PM

When its playing up its all channels on 5E / 13E / 16 E / 19E.
I was getting total pixellation and break up with 90%+ strength and quailty.

Of course its working fine today...... Wierd

BGonaSTICK · 23-09-06, 02:43 PM

Mmmm, that's not right. What do you get on the image in flash? Is that still the stock image?

Sounds like this is a software problem.

Give us some more info. FTA OK?

Analoguesat · 23-09-06, 02:55 PM

That IS the fta channels! Im not too worried about anything else at the moment - I want to get the box stable before I start footling around with much else

Gemini still on the internal flash. Ive been playing with Gemini and PLi on the flash/pen drive.
At the moment it seems to be ok, but its a fine day and the suns shining......

21-09-06, 08:52 AM	#1 (permalink)
Analoguesat manic midlander retired mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 11,668 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1,339 Times in 990 Posts	Tuner sensitivity I thought dreamboxes were supposed to have sensitive tuners??. Well my 7020S is bloody awful - the Technomate and the Echostar run rings round it. I cant get a sniff of the Fox Sports tp on 16E - the Echo at least has a go at displaying it even though it breaks up badly. :? Also every time it rains I get really bad picture breakup and jitter. By 11pm last night it got very close to being ebayed - it was pouring with rain and every satellite on all images was totally unwatchable. (5E / 13E / 16E / 19E - so not as if I was trying to watch underpowered weaklings) Not impressed. __________________ Basic forum rules for both satellite & cable: no keys no patches no offering or asking for card shares Anyone pm'ing me for details of card sharing or anything to do with hacking cable will be banned immediately Analogue forever!!

21-09-06, 10:18 AM	#2 (permalink)
Analoguesat manic midlander retired mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 11,668 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1,339 Times in 990 Posts	Re: Tuner sensitivity I'll redo the flashdrive images over the weekend in case they have got corrupted somewhere.. __________________ Basic forum rules for both satellite & cable: no keys no patches no offering or asking for card shares Anyone pm'ing me for details of card sharing or anything to do with hacking cable will be banned immediately Analogue forever!!

21-09-06, 10:34 AM	#3 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Dodgy Geezer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 9,718 Thanks: 3 Thanked 166 Times in 60 Posts	Re: Tuner sensitivity The 7000 tuner is quite deaf, the 7020 better - but they're certainly not known for having sensitive tuners. I don't have any problems 99% of the time, and if I need to squeeze a weak signal out of the sky, I use my SS2. It's not the best but it's OK. Your problems do sound a bit extreme. I've never lost 13E or 19E in any weather on my TD88, but then it never rains down here __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

21-09-06, 03:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
Jimdefruit Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,858 Thanks: 20 Thanked 221 Times in 187 Posts	Re: Tuner sensitivity You cant go by the readings given as % snr and agc. My Dreambox 7000 always shows a much lower value than my Echostar but gives a better picture. In your case I dont think it is the receiver so much as the dish alignment if all sats are poor. Or you have a faulty or poor tuner. __________________ Dreambox 800 HD; Dreambox 7000s + VBox + Channel Master 1.2 with 36v actuator CM120 feedhorn and Invacom .3 LNB Skystar 2 PCI card with links to my Dreamboxes If you like what you see here, tell your friends.

21-09-06, 03:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
Analoguesat manic midlander retired mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 11,668 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1,339 Times in 990 Posts	Re: Tuner sensitivity Its a fine and sunny evenning today so i'll give it another go. __________________ Basic forum rules for both satellite & cable: no keys no patches no offering or asking for card shares Anyone pm'ing me for details of card sharing or anything to do with hacking cable will be banned immediately Analogue forever!!

23-09-06, 11:55 AM	#6 (permalink)
Analoguesat manic midlander retired mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 11,668 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1,339 Times in 990 Posts	Re: Tuner sensitivity Well Ive found That its not lack of signal causing the problems. I had 90% + signal on all 4 dishes last night - and total break up on all channels on 3 images (Enigma / Pli / Gemini) Im putting the DB back to its out of the box configuration to see if that fixes it. __________________ Basic forum rules for both satellite & cable: no keys no patches no offering or asking for card shares Anyone pm'ing me for details of card sharing or anything to do with hacking cable will be banned immediately Analogue forever!!

23-09-06, 02:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
Jimdefruit Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,858 Thanks: 20 Thanked 221 Times in 187 Posts	Re: Tuner sensitivity Which sat and channels? Or is it all. Do you have a poor signal quality? __________________ Dreambox 800 HD; Dreambox 7000s + VBox + Channel Master 1.2 with 36v actuator CM120 feedhorn and Invacom .3 LNB Skystar 2 PCI card with links to my Dreamboxes If you like what you see here, tell your friends.

23-09-06, 02:20 PM	#8 (permalink)
Analoguesat manic midlander retired mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 11,668 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1,339 Times in 990 Posts	Re: Tuner sensitivity When its playing up its all channels on 5E / 13E / 16 E / 19E. I was getting total pixellation and break up with 90%+ strength and quailty. Of course its working fine today...... Wierd __________________ Basic forum rules for both satellite & cable: no keys no patches no offering or asking for card shares Anyone pm'ing me for details of card sharing or anything to do with hacking cable will be banned immediately Analogue forever!!

23-09-06, 02:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Dodgy Geezer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 9,718 Thanks: 3 Thanked 166 Times in 60 Posts	Re: Tuner sensitivity Mmmm, that's not right. What do you get on the image in flash? Is that still the stock image? Sounds like this is a software problem. Give us some more info. FTA OK? __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

23-09-06, 02:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
Analoguesat manic midlander retired mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 11,668 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1,339 Times in 990 Posts	Re: Tuner sensitivity That IS the fta channels! Im not too worried about anything else at the moment - I want to get the box stable before I start footling around with much else Gemini still on the internal flash. Ive been playing with Gemini and PLi on the flash/pen drive. At the moment it seems to be ok, but its a fine day and the suns shining...... __________________ Basic forum rules for both satellite & cable: no keys no patches no offering or asking for card shares Anyone pm'ing me for details of card sharing or anything to do with hacking cable will be banned immediately Analogue forever!!