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Analoguesat · 21-09-06, 08:52 AM

I thought dreamboxes were supposed to have sensitive tuners??.

Well my 7020S is bloody awful

- the Technomate and the Echostar run rings round it. I cant get a sniff of the Fox Sports tp on 16E - the Echo at least has a go at displaying it even though it breaks up badly. :?

Also every time it rains I get really bad picture breakup and jitter. By 11pm last night it got very close to being ebayed - it was pouring with rain and every satellite on all images was totally unwatchable.

(5E / 13E / 16E / 19E - so not as if I was trying to watch underpowered weaklings)

Not impressed.

Analoguesat · 21-09-06, 10:18 AM

I'll redo the flashdrive images over the weekend in case they have got corrupted somewhere..

BGonaSTICK · 21-09-06, 10:34 AM

The 7000 tuner is quite deaf, the 7020 better - but they're certainly not known for having sensitive tuners.

I don't have any problems 99% of the time, and if I need to squeeze a weak signal out of the sky, I use my SS2. It's not the best but it's OK.

Your problems do sound a bit extreme. I've never lost 13E or 19E in any weather on my TD88, but then it never rains down here

Jimdefruit · 21-09-06, 03:09 PM

You cant go by the readings given as % snr and agc. My Dreambox 7000 always shows a much lower value than my Echostar but gives a better picture.

In your case I dont think it is the receiver so much as the dish alignment if all sats are poor. Or you have a faulty or poor tuner.

Analoguesat · 21-09-06, 03:48 PM

Its a fine and sunny evenning today so i'll give it another go.

Analoguesat · 23-09-06, 11:55 AM

Well Ive found That its not lack of signal causing the problems. I had 90% + signal on all 4 dishes last night - and total break up on all channels on 3 images (Enigma / Pli / Gemini) Im putting the DB back to its out of the box configuration to see if that fixes it.

Jimdefruit · 23-09-06, 02:16 PM

Which sat and channels? Or is it all.
Do you have a poor signal quality?

Analoguesat · 23-09-06, 02:20 PM

When its playing up its all channels on 5E / 13E / 16 E / 19E.
I was getting total pixellation and break up with 90%+ strength and quailty.

Of course its working fine today...... Wierd

BGonaSTICK · 23-09-06, 02:43 PM

Mmmm, that's not right. What do you get on the image in flash? Is that still the stock image?

Sounds like this is a software problem.

Give us some more info. FTA OK?

Analoguesat · 23-09-06, 02:55 PM

That IS the fta channels! Im not too worried about anything else at the moment - I want to get the box stable before I start footling around with much else

Gemini still on the internal flash. Ive been playing with Gemini and PLi on the flash/pen drive.
At the moment it seems to be ok, but its a fine day and the suns shining......

21-09-06, 08:52 AM	#1 (permalink)
Analoguesat Site Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 7,521 Thanks: 7 Thanked 190 Times in 178 Posts	Tuner sensitivity I thought dreamboxes were supposed to have sensitive tuners??. Well my 7020S is bloody awful - the Technomate and the Echostar run rings round it. I cant get a sniff of the Fox Sports tp on 16E - the Echo at least has a go at displaying it even though it breaks up badly. :? Also every time it rains I get really bad picture breakup and jitter. By 11pm last night it got very close to being ebayed - it was pouring with rain and every satellite on all images was totally unwatchable. (5E / 13E / 16E / 19E - so not as if I was trying to watch underpowered weaklings) Not impressed. __________________ Dreambox 7020 / Pace Sky Digibox / Amstrad Sky Italia box 5 dishes for 5E/9E/13E/16E/19E/23E/28E Please DO NOT pm the mods & admins for c&ble keys. You may get banned for it! Read the rules before you post - click here to read them

21-09-06, 10:18 AM	#2 (permalink)
Analoguesat Site Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 7,521 Thanks: 7 Thanked 190 Times in 178 Posts	Re: Tuner sensitivity I'll redo the flashdrive images over the weekend in case they have got corrupted somewhere.. __________________ Dreambox 7020 / Pace Sky Digibox / Amstrad Sky Italia box 5 dishes for 5E/9E/13E/16E/19E/23E/28E Please DO NOT pm the mods & admins for c&ble keys. You may get banned for it! Read the rules before you post - click here to read them

21-09-06, 10:34 AM	#3 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Super Murderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 10,624 Thanks: 3 Thanked 51 Times in 34 Posts	Re: Tuner sensitivity The 7000 tuner is quite deaf, the 7020 better - but they're certainly not known for having sensitive tuners. I don't have any problems 99% of the time, and if I need to squeeze a weak signal out of the sky, I use my SS2. It's not the best but it's OK. Your problems do sound a bit extreme. I've never lost 13E or 19E in any weather on my TD88, but then it never rains down here __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

21-09-06, 03:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
Jimdefruit Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,632 Thanks: 10 Thanked 82 Times in 77 Posts	Re: Tuner sensitivity You cant go by the readings given as % snr and agc. My Dreambox 7000 always shows a much lower value than my Echostar but gives a better picture. In your case I dont think it is the receiver so much as the dish alignment if all sats are poor. Or you have a faulty or poor tuner. __________________ Dreambox 7000s + VBox + Channel Master 1.2 with 36v actuator CM120 feedhorn and Invacom .3 LNB Skystar 2 PCI card with links to my Dreambox If you like what you see here, tell your friends.

21-09-06, 03:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
Analoguesat Site Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 7,521 Thanks: 7 Thanked 190 Times in 178 Posts	Re: Tuner sensitivity Its a fine and sunny evenning today so i'll give it another go. __________________ Dreambox 7020 / Pace Sky Digibox / Amstrad Sky Italia box 5 dishes for 5E/9E/13E/16E/19E/23E/28E Please DO NOT pm the mods & admins for c&ble keys. You may get banned for it! Read the rules before you post - click here to read them


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23-09-06, 11:55 AM	#6 (permalink)
Analoguesat Site Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 7,521 Thanks: 7 Thanked 190 Times in 178 Posts	Re: Tuner sensitivity Well Ive found That its not lack of signal causing the problems. I had 90% + signal on all 4 dishes last night - and total break up on all channels on 3 images (Enigma / Pli / Gemini) Im putting the DB back to its out of the box configuration to see if that fixes it. __________________ Dreambox 7020 / Pace Sky Digibox / Amstrad Sky Italia box 5 dishes for 5E/9E/13E/16E/19E/23E/28E Please DO NOT pm the mods & admins for c&ble keys. You may get banned for it! Read the rules before you post - click here to read them

23-09-06, 02:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
Jimdefruit Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,632 Thanks: 10 Thanked 82 Times in 77 Posts	Re: Tuner sensitivity Which sat and channels? Or is it all. Do you have a poor signal quality? __________________ Dreambox 7000s + VBox + Channel Master 1.2 with 36v actuator CM120 feedhorn and Invacom .3 LNB Skystar 2 PCI card with links to my Dreambox If you like what you see here, tell your friends.

23-09-06, 02:20 PM	#8 (permalink)
Analoguesat Site Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 7,521 Thanks: 7 Thanked 190 Times in 178 Posts	Re: Tuner sensitivity When its playing up its all channels on 5E / 13E / 16 E / 19E. I was getting total pixellation and break up with 90%+ strength and quailty. Of course its working fine today...... Wierd __________________ Dreambox 7020 / Pace Sky Digibox / Amstrad Sky Italia box 5 dishes for 5E/9E/13E/16E/19E/23E/28E Please DO NOT pm the mods & admins for c&ble keys. You may get banned for it! Read the rules before you post - click here to read them

23-09-06, 02:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Super Murderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 10,624 Thanks: 3 Thanked 51 Times in 34 Posts	Re: Tuner sensitivity Mmmm, that's not right. What do you get on the image in flash? Is that still the stock image? Sounds like this is a software problem. Give us some more info. FTA OK? __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

23-09-06, 02:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
Analoguesat Site Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 7,521 Thanks: 7 Thanked 190 Times in 178 Posts	Re: Tuner sensitivity That IS the fta channels! Im not too worried about anything else at the moment - I want to get the box stable before I start footling around with much else Gemini still on the internal flash. Ive been playing with Gemini and PLi on the flash/pen drive. At the moment it seems to be ok, but its a fine day and the suns shining...... __________________ Dreambox 7020 / Pace Sky Digibox / Amstrad Sky Italia box 5 dishes for 5E/9E/13E/16E/19E/23E/28E Please DO NOT pm the mods & admins for c&ble keys. You may get banned for it! Read the rules before you post - click here to read them