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BlackHawk · 27-11-06, 01:20 PM

My observations of signals received, with the equipment as per my signature, now that the wind has blown the leaves off of my neighbours trees. The LOS is through the spindly upper branches of the trees.
11616V, 2893, 3/4, 70+strength and 50+quality
11044V, 29800, 3/4, 80+strength and 60+quality
11031H, 3750, 3/4, 70+strength and 30+quality
11096V, 6400, 3/4, 70+strength and 30+quality
12639V, 2894, 3/4, 70+strength and 20+quality.
Signal goes on 11031H & 11096V & 12639V during heavy rain.
BH

Analoguesat · 27-11-06, 11:37 PM

11044V 29800 3/4

is an easy catch with an 80cm dish here in southern Scotland.

The other one I can get without too much difficulty is 11096V 6400 3/4

January_King · 19-03-07, 07:05 PM

Most of the avaiable channels have now gone onto a symbol rate of 44951 which my TM1500 doesn't seem able to cope with, certainly at these low signal levels. I've never seen SR's that high before. No great loss given content but interesting nonetheless!
JK

BlackHawk · 20-03-07, 12:49 AM

Hiya JK
:welc1: to satellitehelp.
I'm rather surprised that your TM1500 cannot see that SR of 44951 on 11044 Horizontal. My TM5000DA and TM 4100D have no problem with that, neither does the C-Tech 1500 that I also have.
I agree the content is nothing special to me, but just like to know what I can pick up.
Cheers.
BH

BGonaSTICK · 20-03-07, 01:21 AM

This transponder won our 'Highest SR' competition last month :clap:

Increasing SR seems to be a common trend over the last year, as I guess everyone's trying to jam more and more into a finite window, and High Definition starts picking up speed.

wod · 20-03-07, 01:23 AM

i'm sure this was mention on dr dish tv at the weekend and it seems quite a few receivers will do that

January_King · 20-03-07, 04:17 PM

Never one top miss a challenge, Blackhawk! Tried again today and the TM1500 will produce something like you see on 4:2:2 transmissions (ie. no good!). However the Skystar 2 is quite happy with the high SR's which I will bear in mind for the future.
I'll keep my eyes open elsewhere for any TM related comments on this.
JK

BlackHawk · 20-03-07, 10:17 PM

Hi JK
No challenge meant. The Technomate TM1000 & TM4000 & TM5000 & TM7000 & TM8000 series of receivers have in their spec.

Advanced Specification
System Capabilities
Fully DVB compliant

Demodulator
Type: QPSK & FEC or DVB pr ETS 300 421
Symbol Rate: 2-45 Msps

A SR of 2-45 Msps, but they are known to go down close to 1 Msps. I have not heard of the upper limit being exceeded.

The three boxes, that I mentioned, give clear pictures on that transponder and SR. I might get out the Homecast S3000 to see if that is capable of working at that SR.
Cheers
BH

BGonaSTICK · 21-03-07, 01:48 AM

LOL, the challenge may not have been intentional, but it's producing some interesting results!

Anyone else get this TP?

What kit are you using?

BlackHawk · 21-03-07, 11:31 AM

Update.
Got the Homecast S3000 receiver rigged up and working. Rock steady picture and sound on the transponder in question.
Spec sheet of the Receiver User's Manual states;
Tuner & Demodulator.
Symbol Rate; 1-45Msps/SCPC, MCPC
BH

27-11-06, 01:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
BlackHawk Satellite Help member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Suffolk, ENGLAND Posts: 166 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	*Express-AM22 at 53east** My observations of signals received, with the equipment as per my signature, now that the wind has blown the leaves off of my neighbours trees. The LOS is through the spindly upper branches of the trees. 11616V, 2893, 3/4, 70+strength and 50+quality 11044V, 29800, 3/4, 80+strength and 60+quality 11031H, 3750, 3/4, 70+strength and 30+quality 11096V, 6400, 3/4, 70+strength and 30+quality 12639V, 2894, 3/4, 70+strength and 20+quality. Signal goes on 11031H & 11096V & 12639V during heavy rain. BH

27-11-06, 11:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
Analoguesat manic midlander retired mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 11,668 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1,334 Times in 985 Posts	*Re: Express-AM22 at 53east** 11044V 29800 3/4 is an easy catch with an 80cm dish here in southern Scotland. The other one I can get without too much difficulty is 11096V 6400 3/4 __________________ Basic forum rules for both satellite & cable: no keys no patches no offering or asking for card shares Anyone pm'ing me for details of card sharing or anything to do with hacking cable will be banned immediately Analogue forever!!

19-03-07, 07:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
January_King Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 52 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	*Re: Express-AM22 at 53east** Most of the avaiable channels have now gone onto a symbol rate of 44951 which my TM1500 doesn't seem able to cope with, certainly at these low signal levels. I've never seen SR's that high before. No great loss given content but interesting nonetheless! JK __________________ TM 1500+, Diablo CAM / Skystar2, 80cm offset with Smart Tit 0.2db LNB, DISEqC motor, 62E to 15W then trees.

20-03-07, 12:49 AM	#4 (permalink)
BlackHawk Satellite Help member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Suffolk, ENGLAND Posts: 166 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	*Re: Express-AM22 at 53east** Hiya JK :welc1: to satellitehelp. I'm rather surprised that your TM1500 cannot see that SR of 44951 on 11044 Horizontal. My TM5000DA and TM 4100D have no problem with that, neither does the C-Tech 1500 that I also have. I agree the content is nothing special to me, but just like to know what I can pick up. Cheers. BH

20-03-07, 01:21 AM	#5 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Dodgy Geezer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 9,718 Thanks: 3 Thanked 163 Times in 57 Posts	*Re: Express-AM22 at 53east** This transponder won our 'Highest SR' competition last month :clap: Increasing SR seems to be a common trend over the last year, as I guess everyone's trying to jam more and more into a finite window, and High Definition starts picking up speed. __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

20-03-07, 01:23 AM	#6 (permalink)
wod Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,299 Thanks: 18 Thanked 93 Times in 82 Posts	*Re: Express-AM22 at 53east** i'm sure this was mention on dr dish tv at the weekend and it seems quite a few receivers will do that

20-03-07, 04:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
January_King Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 52 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	*Re: Express-AM22 at 53east** Never one top miss a challenge, Blackhawk! Tried again today and the TM1500 will produce something like you see on 4:2:2 transmissions (ie. no good!). However the Skystar 2 is quite happy with the high SR's which I will bear in mind for the future. I'll keep my eyes open elsewhere for any TM related comments on this. JK __________________ TM 1500+, Diablo CAM / Skystar2, 80cm offset with Smart Tit 0.2db LNB, DISEqC motor, 62E to 15W then trees.

20-03-07, 10:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
BlackHawk Satellite Help member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Suffolk, ENGLAND Posts: 166 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	*Re: Express-AM22 at 53east** Hi JK No challenge meant. The Technomate TM1000 & TM4000 & TM5000 & TM7000 & TM8000 series of receivers have in their spec. Advanced Specification System Capabilities Fully DVB compliant Demodulator Type: QPSK & FEC or DVB pr ETS 300 421 Symbol Rate: 2-45 Msps A SR of 2-45 Msps, but they are known to go down close to 1 Msps. I have not heard of the upper limit being exceeded. The three boxes, that I mentioned, give clear pictures on that transponder and SR. I might get out the Homecast S3000 to see if that is capable of working at that SR. Cheers BH

21-03-07, 01:48 AM	#9 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Dodgy Geezer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 9,718 Thanks: 3 Thanked 163 Times in 57 Posts	*Re: Express-AM22 at 53east** LOL, the challenge may not have been intentional, but it's producing some interesting results! Anyone else get this TP? What kit are you using? __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

21-03-07, 11:31 AM	#10 (permalink)
BlackHawk Satellite Help member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Suffolk, ENGLAND Posts: 166 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	*Re: Express-AM22 at 53east** Update. Got the Homecast S3000 receiver rigged up and working. Rock steady picture and sound on the transponder in question. Spec sheet of the Receiver User's Manual states; Tuner & Demodulator. Symbol Rate; 1-45Msps/SCPC, MCPC BH