Technomate 1000D - Super, or Not?

[BGonaSTICK]

I found an eBay auction once for a nice LNB. It was about a tenner, and had free postage.

I thought that sounded good. I bought three in one transaction. He charged me three quid postage, because the resultant package was larger and heavier than a single LNB!

To be fair, it did state a £1 postage cost each for 2+ in the auction. I just assumed it was a typo!

Now, if I'd have bought them all separately, it really would have been free P&P, and cost him more in Paypal fees as well... >

It was actually one of the larger and better known online retailers that has a large website of their own.

Not naming any names, but they weren't at a London airport called Gatwick, Luton, City or Stanstead.

[RobH]

Originally Posted by nanochickin

There are some very good British traders on eBay but unfortunately there are some bad ones.

Everytime i have had problems its been with traders outside of the UK.

I have used efes.satellite & systemsat_direct in the past and they have proved to be really good eBay traders for satellite gear

They have sold me good quality Satellite kit at a good price and everytime it has been delivered within 2 working days. The items have always been exactly as advertised as well

I buy most of my Sat Stuff of eBay (about 75% up to now)

Its just a case of finding a good trader and sticking with them




Nano

I do not have anything to do with the eBay traders above, nor do i get any financial gain from mentioning them.

They are just good honest traders who i have dealt with before on several occasions

It's actually efes sat that I dealt with; it was a great deal; we exchanged lots of E-mails, getting the timing right (they held it until I was back home from holiday), descreased postage substantially for the whole package, held the receiver off of ebay for me (they had one left they hadn't listed, so they didn't list it and just saved it for me). I was thrilled with everything. Got home, it was there, signed for by a neighbor. Still thrilled. Then, grey instead of black dish (though invoice had "black dish" written on it). No big deal, looks okay, especially with the silver LNB arm and silver mounting bracket). But now the dish thing; I checked repeatedly to make sure this was a super he was sending, and it obviously isn't.

This is not an attack on them, just my experience; like I said, I'll see what they say (probably not even fair to complain before contacting them, but I will update the thread so it will be complete). Anyway, if the answer is, send it back at your expense, I'm not impressed. If it's, send it back at our expense but be without one for a few days, I'm also not impressed. If it's some other accomodation, then we'll have to see in the end what that turns out to be.

I'll let everyone know what happens!

Rob

[nanochickin]

Blimey thats come as a bit of a shock

I have only ever had DISEqC switches and Multi lnb holders off them in the past but they have always delivered to goods

Like you have said see what they say before condeming them. If they have sold you a TMS 1000D and not a 1000 D Super they are breaking the 1968 Trades description act

The Trade Descriptions Act 1968 is an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom which prevents manufacturers, retailers or service industry providers from misleading consumers as to what they are spending their money on.

This law empowers the judiciary to punish companies or individuals who make false claims about the products or services that they sell.

Applying a false trade description to goods is an absolute offence. I.e., provided it is shown that the description was applied and was false the offence is proved and the accused has to prove certain defences in order to escape conviction.

False descriptions as to services require the more normal proof of mens rea (guilty knowledge).

Hit them with that and tell them you will report them to trading standards if they do not co-operate

Hope this helps mate



Nano

[RobH]

Originally Posted by nanochickin

Blimey thats come as a bit of a shock

I have only ever had DISEqC switches and Multi lnb holders off them in the past but they have always delivered to goods

Like you have said see what they say before condeming them. If they have sold you a TMS 1000D and not a 1000 D Super they are breaking the 1968 Trades description act

[snip]

Hit them with that and tell them you will report them to trading standards if they do not co-operate

Hope this helps mate



Nano

Nanochicken,

Thanks, and good stuff to know, but I think I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now and approach it a bit more gently; they have 3000+ auctions and not one negative; not one negative; that can't come from intentionally sending the wrong or misdescribed goods. I'm not totally angry with them yet, just disappointed that what should be a done deal is going to be hanging on a bit!

We'll see what they say, and I'll definitely update this post to reflect how things turned out in the end!

Thanks again for all the help, guys!

Rob

[RobH]

Answer seems to be: NOT!

Seller's answer was that his supplier told him the "S" in TMS stood for super (manual pretty much confirms it's "sensitive"; he's offering something back, but I'm not sure what yet (he's on holiday, so it was good of him to get in touch). Still impressed with the seller given this response, so once he's back and we sort out some arrangement, I'll post it here. Right now, assuming he continues going like this, I would buy from him again. So long as I'm not doing blind scans, it shouldn't matter, I guess (though I'm not sure how to set up the transponders so that a non-blind scan will work to pick up the new stuff).

Thanks again for all the help!

Rob

[nanochickin]

My receiver is a TMS 1500 CI+ and that takes about 9.5 hours to blind scan Eutelsat W2 which hasn't got that many transponders on it. The S definately doesn't mean Super in the case of mine

If it is god knows how long a TM 1500 would take

[jontydog]

Out of 235 purchases on Ebay I have only dealt with 2 from abroad and both came within a week and out of all the others we have only ever had 1 problem with something we paid for twice and still never came then the woman disappeared. On the Super front I scanned 19E on my TM1000D Super last night and it took less than an hour and a bit longer for 13E.

[BGonaSTICK]

It certainly appears (on the face of it) that what the 'sensitive' tuner in the TMS range giveth you in terms of fringe reception benefits, it taketh away in terms of blind-scanning speed >

[RobH]

Originally Posted by BGonaSTICK

It certainly appears (on the face of it) that what the 'sensitive' tuner in the TMS range giveth you in terms of fringe reception benefits, it taketh away in terms of blind-scanning speed >

That does seem to be the case; I'm not sure I undestood what blind scanning was for (I'm still not sure I do). But anyway, now that I've blind scanned my only satellite, I should be able to not blind scan again, right? What about after I patch (which I may do tonight or tomorrow; keep your fingers crossed it works properly)? Does a blind scan do anything for me then? If not, then I guess I don't care, but I also don't need the sensitivity to get 19e (which is coming in brilliantly). I'm still thinking of the monobloc, though, to get Hotbird, but we'll have to see about that . . .

Once my seller gets back to me, I'll update everyone with the "deal" I've gotten due to the switch!

Best,

Rob

[BGonaSTICK]

To be honest Rob, I don't think that either of the features will be of any great interest to you for day to day use.

As you say, you're not on the fringe of your reception footprint(s), and blind-scanning is generally a little-used function unless you're specifically looking for feeds.

I think you'll find that applying the patch will overwrite the results of your blind-scan anyway, although you can always do it again afterwards if you wish.

Each satellite has a certain number of regular transponders which are well known and rarely change. Once these are in the receiver, rescanning them will bring up any changes to the channels they contain. This is the most widely used type of scan.

A blind scan is usually used to try and find unpublished transponders (sort of 'dynamic' in their nature if you like) and temporary channels they might contain. A typical use for this might be for a one-off live feed. An outside broadcast - sporting event, news report or something.

Hope this helps explain.

STICK