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RobH · 07-01-07, 10:39 AM

I don't have a lot of expertise to help with your specific questions, Mara, having only just done my first (and possibly only, no need for more) house mounted dish installation. That said, what I do have to offer is that if you decide to have a go yourself and save the installation fee, the people on this website will be there to help you every step of the way. They were invaluable to me, and without them I would have had to hire someone to do it.

You can do this yourself, especially a garden installation that doesn't involve mounting (getting up to the right spot and drilling the hard brick on my house were the hardest parts for me, and these are two things you'll avoid entirely).

If you at all are inclined to DIY, give it a go. You'll not find nicer, more helpful people than the ones you've found here for advice on equipment and installation.

That's my two pence!

Rob

imported_mara · 09-01-07, 09:40 PM

Thanks everyone.

If I get a Gibertini dish, what should I look for in an LMB, does it matter, what's best?

Thanks.

nanochickin · 09-01-07, 09:55 PM

It all depends on how much you want to spend on an lnb

I have heard that Invacom Lnbs are supposed to be very good although you will pay top dollar for them.

Cheaper lnbs that are worth looking at are the likes of MTI bluelines. They seem to grab more signal than some of the other ones i have used in the same price bracket.

I do like to try different lnbs out everytime i add another dish or lnb to my system so it will probably be an Inverto Silverline lnb that i will try next as i have heard quite good reports about them

imported_mara · 10-01-07, 11:22 PM

Thanks, so a C120 Invacom 0.3db Universal or MTI 0.3db Single Blueline with a Gibertini 1.2m (or 1.5m) dish seems to be my shopping list. On the web site I am looking at,there is also a "MTI Blue Line 0.6dB LNB", why would I choose 0.6dB versus 0.3dB?

Also, anyone know where to get a good ground stand to mount it in the garden?

I feel I'm getting there. :

Thanks.

Analoguesat · 10-01-07, 11:26 PM

The noise figures are more or less meaningless. They are figures from one specific frequency in laboratory conditions. Find a brand that performs well for you then stick with it

Anything 0.6db or under will be fine if you are chasingstrong signals off the main sat clusters. Only if you are after every last drop of signal under fringe area reception conditions do you need to buy the ultra expensive ones.

Jimdefruit · 10-01-07, 11:57 PM

One thing that I don't think has been mentioned. If you go for the Channelmaster and maybe some others, the lnb really needs a feedhorn to make best use of the dish.

The feedhorn can be either a separate 20 mm mounting or a lnb with built in feedhorn. I think the Channelmaster comes with a 20 mm mounting bracket as standard. Most other dishes come with a 40 mm mounting bracket.

I am sure someone else will confirm if I am wrong.

BGonaSTICK · 11-01-07, 12:09 AM

If you are going to go for the C120 LNB, make sure you also get the Gibertini feedhorn. If you don't, you may as well go for the cheaper 40mm LNB with integrated feedhorn.

imported_mara · 11-01-07, 06:49 PM

Sorry, what's a feedhorn?

SAT-WORLD · 11-01-07, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mara

Also, anyone know where to get a good ground stand to mount it in the garden?

They are not cheap,but look pretty sturdy compared to most:http://www.satellitesuperstore.com/gstands.htm

Jimdefruit · 11-01-07, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mara

Sorry, what's a feedhorn?

Just pop 'feedhorn' into google and there are lots of pictures and explantions mara.

07-01-07, 10:39 AM	#11 (permalink)
RobH Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 64 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Access to Finnish TV (Canal+) I don't have a lot of expertise to help with your specific questions, Mara, having only just done my first (and possibly only, no need for more) house mounted dish installation. That said, what I do have to offer is that if you decide to have a go yourself and save the installation fee, the people on this website will be there to help you every step of the way. They were invaluable to me, and without them I would have had to hire someone to do it. You can do this yourself, especially a garden installation that doesn't involve mounting (getting up to the right spot and drilling the hard brick on my house were the hardest parts for me, and these are two things you'll avoid entirely). If you at all are inclined to DIY, give it a go. You'll not find nicer, more helpful people than the ones you've found here for advice on equipment and installation. That's my two pence! Rob __________________ Gibertini 60cm dish watching 19.2E, Edition II Twin LNB, Technomate TMS-1000 D.

09-01-07, 09:40 PM	#12 (permalink)
imported_mara Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Access to Finnish TV (Canal+) Thanks everyone. If I get a Gibertini dish, what should I look for in an LMB, does it matter, what's best? Thanks.

09-01-07, 09:55 PM	#13 (permalink)
nanochickin Retired Mod & Sat Guru Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Wolverhampton Posts: 3,825 Thanks: 46 Thanked 338 Times in 270 Posts	Re: Access to Finnish TV (Canal+) It all depends on how much you want to spend on an lnb I have heard that Invacom Lnbs are supposed to be very good although you will pay top dollar for them. Cheaper lnbs that are worth looking at are the likes of MTI bluelines. They seem to grab more signal than some of the other ones i have used in the same price bracket. I do like to try different lnbs out everytime i add another dish or lnb to my system so it will probably be an Inverto Silverline lnb that i will try next as i have heard quite good reports about them __________________ Sanity is nothing more than an excuse to be boring

10-01-07, 11:22 PM	#14 (permalink)
imported_mara Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Access to Finnish TV (Canal+) Thanks, so a C120 Invacom 0.3db Universal or MTI 0.3db Single Blueline with a Gibertini 1.2m (or 1.5m) dish seems to be my shopping list. On the web site I am looking at,there is also a "MTI Blue Line 0.6dB LNB", why would I choose 0.6dB versus 0.3dB? Also, anyone know where to get a good ground stand to mount it in the garden? I feel I'm getting there. : Thanks.

10-01-07, 11:26 PM	#15 (permalink)
Analoguesat manic midlander retired mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 11,668 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1,334 Times in 985 Posts	Re: Access to Finnish TV (Canal+) The noise figures are more or less meaningless. They are figures from one specific frequency in laboratory conditions. Find a brand that performs well for you then stick with it Anything 0.6db or under will be fine if you are chasingstrong signals off the main sat clusters. Only if you are after every last drop of signal under fringe area reception conditions do you need to buy the ultra expensive ones. __________________ Basic forum rules for both satellite & cable: no keys no patches no offering or asking for card shares Anyone pm'ing me for details of card sharing or anything to do with hacking cable will be banned immediately Analogue forever!!

10-01-07, 11:57 PM	#16 (permalink)
Jimdefruit Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,858 Thanks: 20 Thanked 221 Times in 187 Posts	Re: Access to Finnish TV (Canal+) One thing that I don't think has been mentioned. If you go for the Channelmaster and maybe some others, the lnb really needs a feedhorn to make best use of the dish. The feedhorn can be either a separate 20 mm mounting or a lnb with built in feedhorn. I think the Channelmaster comes with a 20 mm mounting bracket as standard. Most other dishes come with a 40 mm mounting bracket. I am sure someone else will confirm if I am wrong. __________________ Dreambox 800 HD; Dreambox 7000s + VBox + Channel Master 1.2 with 36v actuator CM120 feedhorn and Invacom .3 LNB Skystar 2 PCI card with links to my Dreamboxes If you like what you see here, tell your friends.

11-01-07, 12:09 AM	#17 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Dodgy Geezer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 9,718 Thanks: 3 Thanked 163 Times in 57 Posts	Re: Access to Finnish TV (Canal+) If you are going to go for the C120 LNB, make sure you also get the Gibertini feedhorn. If you don't, you may as well go for the cheaper 40mm LNB with integrated feedhorn. __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

11-01-07, 06:49 PM	#18 (permalink)
imported_mara Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Access to Finnish TV (Canal+) Sorry, what's a feedhorn?