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Daggasalmon · 07-01-07, 06:48 PM

Hi,
In Sub-Sahara africa, got Techno1500CI + 88cm dish (local dealer recommended) + Universal single Ku LNB. Connected everything but don't seem to pick up any signal from Telstar12 direction. I can easily rotate dish to PAS 7/10 and get strong signal (87%). Telstar 12 is ~127 degrees west of PAS7/10 and with a smaller elevation (~2 degrees lower). Tried all these settings and rotating dish (with LNB connection at 10 to 10 clock position as advised by dealer) but unable to get signal. Please help!! Do I need special LNB or Techno settings?

Analoguesat · 07-01-07, 06:58 PM

Sub Saharan Africa is well out of the official transmission coverage area for Telstar 12

http://www.loralskynet.com/fleet/tel...Telstar_12.jpg

You probably need a much bigger dish to get it.

Analoguesat · 07-01-07, 06:59 PM

I would also have expected T12 to be higher in the sky than PAS 7/10 not lower.

Daggasalmon · 07-01-07, 07:05 PM

Check the loralsky picture again - subafrica has a spot beam over it. According to flysat, lyngsat etc - there is a Europe+South Africa Beam. According to the official Telstart12 pamphlet, EIRP is 46.7dBW.

Analoguesat · 07-01-07, 07:07 PM

Which country are you in? Theres a spot over South Africa. theres nothing over what is generally caledl sub saharan africa - which is in the western bulge of Africa.

Daggasalmon · 07-01-07, 07:11 PM

Sub Sahara includes South Africa (Everything BELOW the sahara) - sorry for the confusion - I do mean South Africa.

nanochickin · 07-01-07, 07:20 PM

Have you made sure that the transponder settings on your receiver are set to a transponder on the south african beam. :?

If you are set to a transponder that is on the european or American beam you won't get a sausage

Check here for frequencies:- http://www.lyngsat.com/t12.html

Analoguesat · 07-01-07, 07:30 PM

Ok that changes everything. T12 and PAS will be at approx the same elevation as PAS &/10 as you will be at around 28E.

Try 12608 H
19279 2/3

which is supposed to be on the S Africa beam.

Daggasalmon · 07-01-07, 07:41 PM

On my Techno, I have cleared all satellites and channel lists and have only two (PAS7/10 and Telstar12). Because my C-band dish is already pointed to PAS7/10, I was able to do a blind scan and populate the channel list for it. I have physically removed the dish connection and coonected it to my Telstar 12 dish (until I get a DiSeqC switch). For Telstar 12, I have to manually enter channel info and I am stuck. I figured the following:
1. In the "Add channels" menu for Telstar 12, Transponder selected is [1] 11.124 GHz (one of the transponders for Europe+South Africa) - which channel should I select to add?
2. Channel name - Can I choose any name?
3. The VPID and APID will depend on the selected channel and appears on lyngsat - what is PPID (or PCR PID) and where do I find it?

Thanks and regards!

Daggasalmon · 07-01-07, 07:52 PM

From Analoguesat's reply, I gather I should be entering FTA channel info for starters and not encrypted channels. Can I use the Techno1500 as a signal meter to position dish? I also have a sat beeper (the simple stuff).

07-01-07, 06:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
Daggasalmon Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Stuck - Telstar12 Hi, In Sub-Sahara africa, got Techno1500CI + 88cm dish (local dealer recommended) + Universal single Ku LNB. Connected everything but don't seem to pick up any signal from Telstar12 direction. I can easily rotate dish to PAS 7/10 and get strong signal (87%). Telstar 12 is ~127 degrees west of PAS7/10 and with a smaller elevation (~2 degrees lower). Tried all these settings and rotating dish (with LNB connection at 10 to 10 clock position as advised by dealer) but unable to get signal. Please help!! Do I need special LNB or Techno settings?

07-01-07, 06:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
Analoguesat satellite expert Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 8,334 Thanks: 10 Thanked 270 Times in 242 Posts	Re: Stuck - Telstar12 Sub Saharan Africa is well out of the official transmission coverage area for Telstar 12 http://www.loralskynet.com/fleet/tel...Telstar_12.jpg You probably need a much bigger dish to get it. __________________ To all the cable boys - do not post: keys of any sort firmware for receivers links to sites carrying files, keys or fixes Read the rules before you post - click here to read them

07-01-07, 06:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
Analoguesat satellite expert Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 8,334 Thanks: 10 Thanked 270 Times in 242 Posts	Re: Stuck - Telstar12 I would also have expected T12 to be higher in the sky than PAS 7/10 not lower. __________________ To all the cable boys - do not post: keys of any sort firmware for receivers links to sites carrying files, keys or fixes Read the rules before you post - click here to read them

07-01-07, 07:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
Daggasalmon Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Stuck - Telstar12 Check the loralsky picture again - subafrica has a spot beam over it. According to flysat, lyngsat etc - there is a Europe+South Africa Beam. According to the official Telstart12 pamphlet, EIRP is 46.7dBW.

07-01-07, 07:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
Analoguesat satellite expert Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 8,334 Thanks: 10 Thanked 270 Times in 242 Posts	Re: Stuck - Telstar12 Which country are you in? Theres a spot over South Africa. theres nothing over what is generally caledl sub saharan africa - which is in the western bulge of Africa. __________________ To all the cable boys - do not post: keys of any sort firmware for receivers links to sites carrying files, keys or fixes Read the rules before you post - click here to read them


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07-01-07, 07:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
Daggasalmon Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Stuck - Telstar12 Sub Sahara includes South Africa (Everything BELOW the sahara) - sorry for the confusion - I do mean South Africa.

07-01-07, 07:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
nanochickin Satellite Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Today i'll be mostly cleaning up the forum Posts: 3,591 Thanks: 16 Thanked 144 Times in 127 Posts	Re: Stuck - Telstar12 Have you made sure that the transponder settings on your receiver are set to a transponder on the south african beam. :? If you are set to a transponder that is on the european or American beam you won't get a sausage Check here for frequencies:- http://www.lyngsat.com/t12.html __________________ Dreambox 7020Si, 1m Orbital Dish, Triax Quad 0.2dB lnb, Technomate SG2200 Motor. Dreambox 600PVR & Technomate TM9100 Super I'm a Sat mod I know knob all about cable. Please don't PM me to ask about cable Keys

07-01-07, 07:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
Analoguesat satellite expert Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 8,334 Thanks: 10 Thanked 270 Times in 242 Posts	Re: Stuck - Telstar12 Ok that changes everything. T12 and PAS will be at approx the same elevation as PAS &/10 as you will be at around 28E. Try 12608 H 19279 2/3 which is supposed to be on the S Africa beam. __________________ To all the cable boys - do not post: keys of any sort firmware for receivers links to sites carrying files, keys or fixes Read the rules before you post - click here to read them

07-01-07, 07:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
Daggasalmon Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Stuck - Telstar12 On my Techno, I have cleared all satellites and channel lists and have only two (PAS7/10 and Telstar12). Because my C-band dish is already pointed to PAS7/10, I was able to do a blind scan and populate the channel list for it. I have physically removed the dish connection and coonected it to my Telstar 12 dish (until I get a DiSeqC switch). For Telstar 12, I have to manually enter channel info and I am stuck. I figured the following: 1. In the "Add channels" menu for Telstar 12, Transponder selected is [1] 11.124 GHz (one of the transponders for Europe+South Africa) - which channel should I select to add? 2. Channel name - Can I choose any name? 3. The VPID and APID will depend on the selected channel and appears on lyngsat - what is PPID (or PCR PID) and where do I find it? Thanks and regards!

07-01-07, 07:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
Daggasalmon Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Stuck - Telstar12 From Analoguesat's reply, I gather I should be entering FTA channel info for starters and not encrypted channels. Can I use the Techno1500 as a signal meter to position dish? I also have a sat beeper (the simple stuff).