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Daggasalmon · 07-01-07, 05:48 PM

Hi,
In Sub-Sahara africa, got Techno1500CI + 88cm dish (local dealer recommended) + Universal single Ku LNB. Connected everything but don't seem to pick up any signal from Telstar12 direction. I can easily rotate dish to PAS 7/10 and get strong signal (87%). Telstar 12 is ~127 degrees west of PAS7/10 and with a smaller elevation (~2 degrees lower). Tried all these settings and rotating dish (with LNB connection at 10 to 10 clock position as advised by dealer) but unable to get signal. Please help!! Do I need special LNB or Techno settings?

Analoguesat · 07-01-07, 05:58 PM

Sub Saharan Africa is well out of the official transmission coverage area for Telstar 12

http://www.loralskynet.com/fleet/tel...Telstar_12.jpg

You probably need a much bigger dish to get it.

Analoguesat · 07-01-07, 05:59 PM

I would also have expected T12 to be higher in the sky than PAS 7/10 not lower.

Daggasalmon · 07-01-07, 06:05 PM

Check the loralsky picture again - subafrica has a spot beam over it. According to flysat, lyngsat etc - there is a Europe+South Africa Beam. According to the official Telstart12 pamphlet, EIRP is 46.7dBW.

Analoguesat · 07-01-07, 06:07 PM

Which country are you in? Theres a spot over South Africa. theres nothing over what is generally caledl sub saharan africa - which is in the western bulge of Africa.

Daggasalmon · 07-01-07, 06:11 PM

Sub Sahara includes South Africa (Everything BELOW the sahara) - sorry for the confusion - I do mean South Africa.

nanochickin · 07-01-07, 06:20 PM

Have you made sure that the transponder settings on your receiver are set to a transponder on the south african beam. :?

If you are set to a transponder that is on the european or American beam you won't get a sausage

Check here for frequencies:- http://www.lyngsat.com/t12.html

Analoguesat · 07-01-07, 06:30 PM

Ok that changes everything. T12 and PAS will be at approx the same elevation as PAS &/10 as you will be at around 28E.

Try 12608 H
19279 2/3

which is supposed to be on the S Africa beam.

Daggasalmon · 07-01-07, 06:41 PM

On my Techno, I have cleared all satellites and channel lists and have only two (PAS7/10 and Telstar12). Because my C-band dish is already pointed to PAS7/10, I was able to do a blind scan and populate the channel list for it. I have physically removed the dish connection and coonected it to my Telstar 12 dish (until I get a DiSeqC switch). For Telstar 12, I have to manually enter channel info and I am stuck. I figured the following:
1. In the "Add channels" menu for Telstar 12, Transponder selected is [1] 11.124 GHz (one of the transponders for Europe+South Africa) - which channel should I select to add?
2. Channel name - Can I choose any name?
3. The VPID and APID will depend on the selected channel and appears on lyngsat - what is PPID (or PCR PID) and where do I find it?

Thanks and regards!

Daggasalmon · 07-01-07, 06:52 PM

From Analoguesat's reply, I gather I should be entering FTA channel info for starters and not encrypted channels. Can I use the Techno1500 as a signal meter to position dish? I also have a sat beeper (the simple stuff).

07-01-07, 05:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
Daggasalmon Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Stuck - Telstar12 Hi, In Sub-Sahara africa, got Techno1500CI + 88cm dish (local dealer recommended) + Universal single Ku LNB. Connected everything but don't seem to pick up any signal from Telstar12 direction. I can easily rotate dish to PAS 7/10 and get strong signal (87%). Telstar 12 is ~127 degrees west of PAS7/10 and with a smaller elevation (~2 degrees lower). Tried all these settings and rotating dish (with LNB connection at 10 to 10 clock position as advised by dealer) but unable to get signal. Please help!! Do I need special LNB or Techno settings?

07-01-07, 05:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
Analoguesat manic midlander retired mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 11,668 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1,339 Times in 990 Posts	Re: Stuck - Telstar12 Sub Saharan Africa is well out of the official transmission coverage area for Telstar 12 http://www.loralskynet.com/fleet/tel...Telstar_12.jpg You probably need a much bigger dish to get it. __________________ Basic forum rules for both satellite & cable: no keys no patches no offering or asking for card shares Anyone pm'ing me for details of card sharing or anything to do with hacking cable will be banned immediately Analogue forever!!

07-01-07, 05:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
Analoguesat manic midlander retired mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 11,668 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1,339 Times in 990 Posts	Re: Stuck - Telstar12 I would also have expected T12 to be higher in the sky than PAS 7/10 not lower. __________________ Basic forum rules for both satellite & cable: no keys no patches no offering or asking for card shares Anyone pm'ing me for details of card sharing or anything to do with hacking cable will be banned immediately Analogue forever!!

07-01-07, 06:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
Daggasalmon Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Stuck - Telstar12 Check the loralsky picture again - subafrica has a spot beam over it. According to flysat, lyngsat etc - there is a Europe+South Africa Beam. According to the official Telstart12 pamphlet, EIRP is 46.7dBW.

07-01-07, 06:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
Analoguesat manic midlander retired mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 11,668 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1,339 Times in 990 Posts	Re: Stuck - Telstar12 Which country are you in? Theres a spot over South Africa. theres nothing over what is generally caledl sub saharan africa - which is in the western bulge of Africa. __________________ Basic forum rules for both satellite & cable: no keys no patches no offering or asking for card shares Anyone pm'ing me for details of card sharing or anything to do with hacking cable will be banned immediately Analogue forever!!

07-01-07, 06:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
Daggasalmon Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Stuck - Telstar12 Sub Sahara includes South Africa (Everything BELOW the sahara) - sorry for the confusion - I do mean South Africa.

07-01-07, 06:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
nanochickin Retired Mod & Sat Guru Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Wolverhampton Posts: 3,825 Thanks: 46 Thanked 338 Times in 270 Posts	Re: Stuck - Telstar12 Have you made sure that the transponder settings on your receiver are set to a transponder on the south african beam. :? If you are set to a transponder that is on the european or American beam you won't get a sausage Check here for frequencies:- http://www.lyngsat.com/t12.html __________________ Sanity is nothing more than an excuse to be boring

07-01-07, 06:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
Analoguesat manic midlander retired mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 11,668 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1,339 Times in 990 Posts	Re: Stuck - Telstar12 Ok that changes everything. T12 and PAS will be at approx the same elevation as PAS &/10 as you will be at around 28E. Try 12608 H 19279 2/3 which is supposed to be on the S Africa beam. __________________ Basic forum rules for both satellite & cable: no keys no patches no offering or asking for card shares Anyone pm'ing me for details of card sharing or anything to do with hacking cable will be banned immediately Analogue forever!!

07-01-07, 06:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
Daggasalmon Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Stuck - Telstar12 On my Techno, I have cleared all satellites and channel lists and have only two (PAS7/10 and Telstar12). Because my C-band dish is already pointed to PAS7/10, I was able to do a blind scan and populate the channel list for it. I have physically removed the dish connection and coonected it to my Telstar 12 dish (until I get a DiSeqC switch). For Telstar 12, I have to manually enter channel info and I am stuck. I figured the following: 1. In the "Add channels" menu for Telstar 12, Transponder selected is [1] 11.124 GHz (one of the transponders for Europe+South Africa) - which channel should I select to add? 2. Channel name - Can I choose any name? 3. The VPID and APID will depend on the selected channel and appears on lyngsat - what is PPID (or PCR PID) and where do I find it? Thanks and regards!

07-01-07, 06:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
Daggasalmon Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Stuck - Telstar12 From Analoguesat's reply, I gather I should be entering FTA channel info for starters and not encrypted channels. Can I use the Techno1500 as a signal meter to position dish? I also have a sat beeper (the simple stuff).