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Old 01-03-07, 01:38 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Hi Ed, welcome to the forum

I wouldn't mess with your kit or try interchanging bits and bobs (because you've already had it working on 28.2E) - your problem is almost certainly just an alignment issue. Astra 19.2E will be slightly higher in the sky than 28.2E and 9 degrees to the right (if you were standing behind the dish looking up into the sky).

The Astra 1.x orbital location is generally plenty powerful enough for UK residents to pick up with a 60cm dish, so you just have to be patient.

Tune the receiver into a transponder/channel that is listed in your receiver under 19.2E (you can check the transponder list against the one to be found at sites like lyngsat.com or Flysat.com) and then try adjusting the dish. With digital signals, you have to do this in very tiny steps, and pause for three or four seconds - because there is a lag in the locking and decoding process.

Do you have a signal meter? It might make it easier.

This utility might be of some help to you as well:

http://www.ses-astra.com/consumer/az...p?locale=en_GB

or you might like to try the SMW link software (free download) to be found here:

http://www.smw.se/FreeSoftware.htm

Let us know how you get on. Keep trying! You'll get there in the end, and you won't be disappointed.
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Old 03-03-07, 09:52 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Don't complicate things.

Buy a 10 Euro satfinder

Find out which sat is closed to your the south of your position. Find out a powerful transponder on that sat.

Put your motor to the 0 position.
Find out your real south (wait for a sunny day and use the Indian way, just a little stick and noon, 1200 hours, a shadow and you do not need a compass)
Use a monkeywrench to adjust your dish to the maximum reception of the transponder on the sat you've decided to use and bingo you've got it. Offcourse you have to look in the manual of your motor to have that angle correct for your position on this planet and you have to have your motor mounting to be exactly vertical.

Good luck

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Old 04-03-07, 11:32 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Thanks for your help I have found it. I have a sat finder it was supplied with the kit but it constantly gives a full power reading at 40 degrees east and west of south. I picked a dry day and put up a platform tower and took a portable tv and the sat receiver up and adjusted it until I received a good signal via the sat receiver and tv. This was easier than shouting down to my wife and asking her if I had a signal. The rear of my house faces 10 degrees west of south so I measured 19.2 less the 10 pointed the dish in that direction and eventually found the satellite. I found the Astra 2 easier to find but eventually found the one I wanted.

I now have another question, to pick up the Astra 2 at 28.2 and 23.5 would I require a motorised dish or could I fit a triple lnb?

Thanks for all the advice.
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Old 04-03-07, 01:11 PM   #24 (permalink)
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You would need to fit three LNBs to receive three satellites, but at 60cms, your dish is really too small.

The dish also needs to have a multi-LNB arm fitted to mount the extra LNBs, and I doubt there is one available off the shelf for your dish. You could try making one if you're up for it, but I think you'll be disappointed with the results. You could also try a generic one, but they're not ideal.

Getting both 28.2E and 19.2E on a single (larger - 80-90cm) dish is pretty easy, though you might find that 23.5E is a little too close to 19.2E to physically jam the LNB in. You might do it - it depends on the dimensions of each LNB as much as anything.
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First of all i would like to say thank you for your help!! it working!

Well now just to sort out my mythtv box but that will come in a coule of weeks once we have decided if to bother.

I was on holiday in germany(with relatives) and we spotted in a local shop that had a offer for a 60CM dish and reciver for €44 about £30 so i thought what the hell and bought it.

Any way got back pluged the revier into the mini dish and had a go and got it working fine. So i have a 60CM dish sitting around at the moment waiting for it to rain and see if we get and picture loss if so ill be putting the 60CM dish up.

TIP Forget trying to use a sky digital box its not worth the hastle. Spend 3 hours one day trying to get it working with the digi box. Used the Comag SL35 signal monitor and got it working in 20 mins!

Thank you once more for the help.
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Good stuff Mogwa - well done

Sometimes its a real sod to get that first setup locked on the satellite you want, and yet some lucky folks get it working in a few minutes.

We may have given you some info - but you got it going
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Great sense of achievement isn't it?

There are so many myths and mysteries surrounding satellite TV, but with a little help, it's very do-able.

Well done.
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At some point i am going to have a look at hotbird and see if there is anything there for me.
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If you have 13E and 19E you can join in with "chasing midnight" next New Years Eve!

We had great fun seeing in 2007 in multiple countries

http://www.satellitehelp.co.uk/forum...ic,2540.0.html
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