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Old 26-03-07, 09:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Moteck SG-2100 Declination Angle?

I have installed a Triax TD88 dish, with a Moteck SG-2100 H - H motor.
I have followed the setup instructions supplied with the Triax Dish and the Moteck SG-2100 Motor, but so far have only found Hotbird satellite at 13E.

In the user manual (ref SG21-004 Ver.01) which came with the SG-2100 it refers to setting the Declination angle on the Dish scale as 30 Degrees - Declination angle.

However, I have also seen a Moteck SG-2100 pdf file which states the Angle of the Dish Scale should be set to
40 degrees - Declination Angle. And Several other SG-2100 motorised dish setup instructions also refer to the 40 degree - Declination Angle.

Which is correct and have Moteck redesigned the Mounting Tube Offset angle from 40 to 30 degrees or is the Documentation wrong.? also where should I measure the correct Dish Declination Angle?, at the Front of the Motor Mounting shaft, or across the top and bottom edges of the Dish??

Thanks for any answers which will assist with setting the Declination angle.
My co-ordinates are 51.7244 N - 0.5250 W

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Old 26-03-07, 11:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Moteck SG-2100 Declination Angle?

have you tried

http://www.satsig.net/maps/satellite...uk-ireland.htm

it appears to be a useful tool

just received my sg2100 today and as with everything else the manual goes off target in translation from chinese to german to spanish to english

bit confused myself about the angle of the dangle thing but will swop any relevant info when i get a chance to absail down the chimney

in the meantime if you find out anything useful please share



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Default Re: Moteck SG-2100 Declination Angle?

Have a look at this mate.

_http://www.satellitehelp.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,401.0.html

Should explain everything

I hope it does anyway as i'm setting my motor up tomorrow



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Default Re: Moteck SG-2100 Declination Angle?

also try sticks rather wonderful yet tantilisingly incomprehensible ( to a newbie such as myself) guide to setting up this stuff

_http://www.satellitehelp.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,401.0.html

ps i think the dish bracket angle of 30 degrees that you refer to is if you are on the equator, you need to check your latitude against the table in your manual for the dish angle
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Default Re: Moteck SG-2100 Declination Angle?

refering to the manual that came with my moteck motor

the motor elevation angle for 51n latitude = 39 degrees which will read 51 on the other side

dish elevation 22.6 degrees, declination angle 7.4

i found that the dish elevation is out on dishes so try around 23 degrees

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Default Re: Moteck SG-2100 Declination Angle?

The Moteck motors do indeed seem to come in two varieties - one requiring 30 degrees - declination angle and one 40 degrees - declination angle - so I would initially go with what your doco says.

I have the slightly older SG2100 (as opposed to the SG2100A) and it says 40 - declination, but in your case your calculation will look something like this:

30 - 7.42 (the declination angle for your latitude of 51.7 degrees) = 22.58

Therefore 22.58 degrees is the angle you should set on the dish scale of the Triax. Simple as that.

If you want to actually measure the angles yourself, then you can - but you'll need to take into account the motor elevation angle, the actual declination angle (by using a straight-edge against the top and bottom lips of the dish face) and the offset angle of the dish itself (from the manufacturers specs).

Unfortunately, I don't remember what the offset angle for the old TD88 is, but the new TDE88 is 26 degrees. The Triax website has nuked all the old doco now >
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Hi all. I am a nw comer on tech watch. A week ago I had bought a MOTECK 2100A which I had great disappointment with it. Like one of the mimbers here, I had only recieved HOTBIRD and ASTRA with full signal, but when I come to recieve HISPASAT...terrible, I ve been a week on my roof trying to get hispasat in vain, not even manual. its the most horrible motor in the world!!!!! I would appriciate some comments. thanks to all.
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Default Re: Moteck SG-2100 Declination Angle?

Nothing wrong with the Motek 2100, my TD78 is running fine on it, as was my TD110.

Here are a few things that might be causing the problem.

1. Is the pole perfectly plumb, in all directions. If it isn't it won't track the arc properly.

2. Have you set the Latitude/Elevation on the motor correctly.

3. Is the dish central on the motor shaft. There is a spline on the motor shaft to help line it up.

4. Did you send the motor to 1w (or your due south sat) with Usals, and line up on that first ?

Here are a couple of guides that might help

DiSEqC motor installation guides.
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I'm with Rick on this one. It is a very popular motor, and unless it is making any strange noises then I would look elsewhere. I have an SG-2100 and an SG-2100A. I use both, the former has been performing faultlessly for the last 5 years. As Rick says it is more likely that something is not quite right with the set up. Astra and Hotbird are quite close to each other, and so if you can receive one of them you will likely get them both - even if you have a misalignment. However @ 30W, Hispasat is quite a way around the arc, and if things aren't spot on then you won't get a signal from it. His suggestions will hopefully help you identify and resolve your problem. Yorks.
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