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Old 08-04-07, 04:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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My location is on the Moray Firth coast of Scotland, NW of Aberdeen, and I'm interested in receiving the following digital TV signals:

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Danish-language channels from Thor 2 on 1W, specifically 11.403 V. I know I shall probably have to pay for a Canal Digital subscription for these (although any comments on how to receive them FTA would be most welcome).

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German-language channels, preferably FTA. Satellite/position unknown.

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Swedish-language channels of some sort, preferably FTA. Satellite/position unknown.

Important question: Is there a multi-satellite solution to receiving all of these (at any rate Danish and German) on a single, fixed dish, say, approx. 70-100cm? For aesthetic reason, I want to stick to a single-dish solution.

Thank you for any tips/advice/comments you may have.

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Hiya mate,

I would say 19E for German channels and, at a guess, 5E for Swedish.

I've never actually used a multi LNB set up so one of the other guy's will be better placed to advise you on that :?

I'm not sure what size dish you need to get from 1W - 19E but, given your location, I would think you would need a 1M dish just to get a reliable reception from some of these Sat's.

I'm sure one of the other guy's will fill you in later anyway mate

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My location is on the Moray Firth coast of Scotland, NW of Aberdeen, and I'm interested in receiving the following digital TV signals:

1.
Danish-language channels from Thor 2 on 1W, specifically 11.403 V. I know I shall probably have to pay for a Canal Digital subscription for these (although any comments on how to receive them FTA would be most welcome).

2.
German-language channels, preferably FTA. Satellite/position unknown.

3.
Swedish-language channels of some sort, preferably FTA. Satellite/position unknown.

Important question: Is there a multi-satellite solution to receiving all of these (at any rate Danish and German) on a single, fixed dish, say, approx. 70-100cm? For aesthetic reason, I want to stick to a single-dish solution.

Thank you for any tips/advice/comments you may have.

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i dont think you will get any channels from thor 1w without a official subscription.
and while your interested in german channels astra 1 at 19e is the satellite with
the best selection and most are free to air channels, but i think you will be very
lucky to get both sats with a fixed dish system, there are also lots of Swedish-language channels on sirus at 5e that could be of interest to you
but your going to need a 1.2 mtr dish at least to receive these channels.
my advice is to get a motorised system then you will get the best of whats
available.
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I have to agree with big d, although the dish size required for Thor2/3 does vary quite dramatically across the British Isles, and indeed this can favour Scotland. A motorised dish at 1m or preferably larger is going to let you see everything possible, and if you are in a windy location (just sounds windy to me!) then a 36V setup might be preferable.

I would maybe suggest a Channel Master 1.2m or a Gibertini 1.25m and either a Jaeger 1224 or a polar mount and actuator.

Although there is a little FTA on 5E and 1W, subscriptions are the order of the day, and won't come cheap from the UK, as they will have to come through a commission-hungry agent if you don't have any friends/relatives in Scandinavia.
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You should manage Thor and Sirius quite easily on a 1m dish in near Aberdeen as you are either inside or right on the edge of the nordic beam footprints

_http://www.lyngsat-maps.com/maps/sirius2_nordic.html
_http://www.lyngsat-maps.com/maps/sirius3.html
_http://www.lyngsat-maps.com/maps/thor2.html
_http://www.lyngsat-maps.com/maps/thor3.html

When i lived in Aberdeen I used to manage to get a lot of the Nordic and Swedish stuff in D2MAC off the old BSB birds (Thor 1 and Sirius 1) which were not as powerful as the newer generation Thor and Sirius birds so i don't think you will have any probs



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i have them blasting here in sunny (cough cough) aberdeen off a 1 meter dish

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Sunny in Aberdeen. Your having me on

I don't ever remember that happening when i lived there :roflmao:



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Hi again

I phoned Canal Digital in Copenhagen ... a year's subscription with card costs about GBP 150 and provides 3-4 DK TV channels plus a load of radio. They sell subscriptions to the Faroe Islands and Greenland but are not sure how big the dishes are in those areas ... they think less than 100cm. So I think I'll go for 100cm. Maybe with a feedhorn.

Is it a stupid idea to think of combining 1W (Danish) and 19E (German) on a fixed dish? I'm not too happy about a motorised setup because (a) yes, it is very windy, and (b) it is very salty and susceptible to rust.
BGonaSTICK, what is "a 36V setup"?

Marswalker, what are you actually receiving in Aberdeen (I'm not impressed by the cough, cough put-off - I live near Banff, and that's cold and windy! Actually the North-east has a better weather reputation than UK forecasters give it credit for.)? Are you getting Danish channels (DR1, DR2, TV2)? Subscription? "Other means"? And any German?

Nanochickin, yes, we used to get som analogue stuff in D2Mac. But that's all shut down down now ... :-(

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The Channel Master (Andrews) dishes are glass fibre (with metal mesh inside) and the Gibertini's are aluminium, so no problems with rust other than the mount. The new Triax dishes are composite too, so they could work out well.

Even a 1m dish on a DiSEqC motor can be a bit much in a windy area, which is why I threw the 36v idea at you. They are generally a lot tougher and more powerful - just what you need to combat high winds - they are usually much stronger in their construction and employ a separate electrical supply to the motor.

It is possible to do 19.2E and 1W on a single fixed dish, but 20 degrees is pretty much on the limit for span. You would probably experience a general deterioration in reception on 1W, and as you maybe don't have a lot in-hand with a 1m dish, I'm not confident you would get the desired result. It could all end up being a rather expensive mistake.
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just to add another idea why not have 2nd smaller dish for 19e down here in york ive just set up a friend on 19 east on a small sky dish
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