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satsid · 12-04-07, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mship

To be honest sid when I heard this my reaction was "well that'll be the end of Premier then"

Maybe we'll both be proven wrong but the chance to watch every PL game free is probably to good to be true :?

Kev

Hi kev if that happens i would be very shocked m8.As i say on the conmen,If your smart today its best to invest in a good satellite dish or receiver.Today even with receivers you have to be very carefull,as there are so many on the market.The satellite hobbie is now set up for the newbie,with this thay can rip them off.I can not see nexst year being any different,im sorry to say.
sid

barr6868 · 12-04-07, 10:39 PM

I was actually wondering if ART will do a deal with Setanta. :?

They broadcast all Setanta live Scottish games at the moment, and Setanta have the rights for the Scottish games next season as well, and 46 (I think) English Premier League games.

Would be better than nothing.

wod · 12-04-07, 10:45 PM

well i doubt they can as their coverage area is the same as showtime so would kinda of conflict as art dont have rights for that area as they lost them due to some people saying the not tightening up of the distribution of cards did them

BGonaSTICK · 13-04-07, 02:14 AM

The start of the next Premiership season is light years away in terms of the satellite scene, so we'll have to wait until much nearer the time before a sensible decision can be made, unless like wod you are happy to pay.

Nothing wrong with that - it's nice to hear. Some packages really are worth splashing out on.

chavslav · 15-05-07, 11:04 PM

just accquired this information.

not sure how true it is. its not in my words c/p.

as far as i know yes ART have agreed a new package with Showtime Arabia however its only available on ART Sports 7 8 & 9 which is unfortunately only available on Nilesat 102 7W
min of a 2.8m dish for north england 1.8 south and midlands

BGonaSTICK · 16-05-07, 12:04 AM

Yes, that's what I understood way back when ART did the deal. Nilesat/Irdeto only.

diapason · 16-05-07, 06:49 PM

I don't usually comment on football as I'm not a fan, but I did notice that ART Football is shown in the Park Bar in Glasgow. We were in for a meal and they do good food and real ale, so I was curious. I enquired as to how they got it and the answer was that it's only available to commercial premises. This comment may, of course, be of no technical interest whatsoever to all you enthusiasts out there!!

Jimdefruit · 16-05-07, 07:50 PM

Anyone can buy an Art card so it definitely is not just commercial premises. Unfortunately there still does not appear to be any info about the footy for 2007/2008.

BGonaSTICK · 16-05-07, 08:34 PM

In fact, you'll find that it's just the opposite - the current ART cards are for private use only, and not licensed for commercial premises.

They've probably bought a bundled 'pub system' which is exactly the same as the sort of kit we all use, except it costs four times the price...

:roflmao:

If they get caught, they could face a good going-over in the courts by Sky/FAPL/FACT.

To my knowledge, there have not been any cases brought against private users of ART cards. This could well be because it's nigh-on impossible to catch someone watching in their own home, because 'the authorities' can't enter your property without a search warrant.

elton · 04-06-07, 01:01 PM

Not sure if this helps but ..... as a Secretary to a small Workingmen's Club I was recently approached by a company to install an entertainment package primarily for bingo, disco's etc. As part of the install, they were prepared to install FOC a satellite system to show football. Their advice regarding the legality of doing so revolved around becoming members of ESTA (the European Satellite Television Association) and siting the Publicans Legal Defence Plan [PLDp] which was the getout. There was a case where Sky took a publican to a magistrates court and won the case against him, but this case proceeded to Crown Court where barristers succeeded in overturning the Magistrates Court decision.

Just my 2pennies worth.

12-04-07, 10:39 PM	#12 (permalink)
barr6868 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: lanark, scotland Posts: 447 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: ART CARDS... I was actually wondering if ART will do a deal with Setanta. :? They broadcast all Setanta live Scottish games at the moment, and Setanta have the rights for the Scottish games next season as well, and 46 (I think) English Premier League games. Would be better than nothing. __________________ 110 cm Triax Dish , 0.2db Lnb, Jaeger motor, Dreambox 7000, Dragon Trex cam, Art sport card. Full Sly package + movies

12-04-07, 10:45 PM	#13 (permalink)
wod Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,996 Thanks: 10 Thanked 35 Times in 34 Posts	Re: ART CARDS... well i doubt they can as their coverage area is the same as showtime so would kinda of conflict as art dont have rights for that area as they lost them due to some people saying the not tightening up of the distribution of cards did them __________________ 90cm andrews/jaeger 1224 motor,Vantage x221tsci, tms-1500ci+, skystar 2, diablo v2.3 setanta on 60cm minidish

13-04-07, 02:14 AM	#14 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Super Murderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 10,632 Thanks: 3 Thanked 62 Times in 36 Posts	Re: ART CARDS... The start of the next Premiership season is light years away in terms of the satellite scene, so we'll have to wait until much nearer the time before a sensible decision can be made, unless like wod you are happy to pay. Nothing wrong with that - it's nice to hear. Some packages really are worth splashing out on. __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

15-05-07, 11:04 PM	#15 (permalink)
chavslav Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 338 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: ART CARDS... just accquired this information. not sure how true it is. its not in my words c/p. as far as i know yes ART have agreed a new package with Showtime Arabia however its only available on ART Sports 7 8 & 9 which is unfortunately only available on Nilesat 102 7W min of a 2.8m dish for north england 1.8 south and midlands

16-05-07, 12:04 AM	#16 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Super Murderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 10,632 Thanks: 3 Thanked 62 Times in 36 Posts	Re: ART CARDS... Yes, that's what I understood way back when ART did the deal. Nilesat/Irdeto only. __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W


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16-05-07, 06:49 PM	#17 (permalink)
diapason Resident Organgrinder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Paisley, Scotland Posts: 529 Thanks: 11 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: ART CARDS... I don't usually comment on football as I'm not a fan, but I did notice that ART Football is shown in the Park Bar in Glasgow. We were in for a meal and they do good food and real ale, so I was curious. I enquired as to how they got it and the answer was that it's only available to commercial premises. This comment may, of course, be of no technical interest whatsoever to all you enthusiasts out there!! __________________ An eight foot long diapason sounds bottom C Technomate 1000D Super, Two dishes receiving three satellites

16-05-07, 07:50 PM	#18 (permalink)
Jimdefruit Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,762 Thanks: 10 Thanked 110 Times in 102 Posts	Re: ART CARDS... Anyone can buy an Art card so it definitely is not just commercial premises. Unfortunately there still does not appear to be any info about the footy for 2007/2008. __________________ Dreambox 800 HD; Dreambox 7000s + VBox + Channel Master 1.2 with 36v actuator CM120 feedhorn and Invacom .3 LNB Skystar 2 PCI card with links to my Dreambox If you like what you see here, tell your friends.

16-05-07, 08:34 PM	#19 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Super Murderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 10,632 Thanks: 3 Thanked 62 Times in 36 Posts	Re: ART CARDS... In fact, you'll find that it's just the opposite - the current ART cards are for private use only, and not licensed for commercial premises. They've probably bought a bundled 'pub system' which is exactly the same as the sort of kit we all use, except it costs four times the price... :roflmao: If they get caught, they could face a good going-over in the courts by Sky/FAPL/FACT. To my knowledge, there have not been any cases brought against private users of ART cards. This could well be because it's nigh-on impossible to catch someone watching in their own home, because 'the authorities' can't enter your property without a search warrant. __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

04-06-07, 01:01 PM	#20 (permalink)
elton Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ammanford, Carmarthenshire Posts: 171 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ART CARDS... Not sure if this helps but ..... as a Secretary to a small Workingmen's Club I was recently approached by a company to install an entertainment package primarily for bingo, disco's etc. As part of the install, they were prepared to install FOC a satellite system to show football. Their advice regarding the legality of doing so revolved around becoming members of ESTA (the European Satellite Television Association) and siting the Publicans Legal Defence Plan [PLDp] which was the getout. There was a case where Sky took a publican to a magistrates court and won the case against him, but this case proceeded to Crown Court where barristers succeeded in overturning the Magistrates Court decision. Just my 2pennies worth. __________________ Smilies everywhere beware ....