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BGonaSTICK · 08-05-07, 08:52 PM

Virgin Media has confirmed that it will rollout a traffic management system designed to reduce the downstream speed of customers who download lots of data during peak hours.

The cableco defines peak as between 4pm and midnight, and claimed that only the top 5% of downloaders on each speed tier would be affected. Customers on tier M who download over 350MB during peak will have their downstream speed reduced to 1Mbps and their upstream restricted to 128Kbps for four hours. Customers on tier L who download over 750MB during peak will have their downstream reduced to 2Mbps and their upstream restricted to 192Kbps. Customers on Virgin's flagship XL service who download over 3GB during peak will be restricted to 5Mbps down/256Kbps up.

The traffic management system is being implemented at the same time as 20Mbps downstream services are being rolled out to XL tier subscribers.

Jimdefruit · 08-05-07, 10:33 PM

Virgin really are trying hard to cut their own throat aren't they.

BGonaSTICK · 08-05-07, 11:00 PM

Yep. How to win friends and influence people...

nanochickin · 09-05-07, 08:19 AM

If they start to slow me down i will definately be telling them where to go

Fair use policy my arse

Unknown user #1 · 09-05-07, 12:48 PM

My initial contract with them is ending in June. Might reconsider going back to BT/Zen.

wobblywill · 11-05-07, 11:14 PM

I recently zapped VM phone and tv and reduced to broadband only.

I wont go into boring detail as this is still in dispute however >

they came and swapped my stb for a bb modem :?

my stb speed on bb size m as monitored on thinkbroadband was up in the region of 1.7 - 1.9

on the bb modem it is 0.9 -1.2 peaking at 1.7 off peak

i have checked with my next door neighbour and they are still achieving 1.7 - 1.9 on their stb at the same time I am online

as we share the same local hub, am I being overly suspicious

as I say this is ongoing and i will fill you in later

Analoguesat · 11-05-07, 11:21 PM

Traffic shaping is becoming increasingly common - the infrastructure cant cope with the really heavy file sharing peeps.

Makes you wonder what the hell is going to happen as we move over towards IPTV doesnt it - once the BBC & Sky downloading services starts becoming popular its going to really nail the internet infrastructure as its all p2p based.

BGonaSTICK · 12-05-07, 01:00 AM

BT will just have to pull their fingers out of their arse and deliver us the telecoms cabling infrastructure that they should have done 15 years ago.

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I reckon your speed drop could simply be down to the hardware swap. The regular 'giveaway' modems are often awful. Try replacing it yourself with a decent make and see what you get. I stuck about 20% on by doing just that when I was with Pipex.

wobblywill · 12-05-07, 01:46 AM

Call me cynical if you want

but now that BT and VM have a virtual duopoly , are we stuffed

ops:

BGonaSTICK · 12-05-07, 01:55 AM

With the steady LLU rollout and possibilities of either wireless or satellite broadband evolving rapidly, there may be plenty more to chose from than the old enemies soon.

08-05-07, 08:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Dodgy Geezer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 9,718 Thanks: 3 Thanked 166 Times in 60 Posts	Virgin to cut heavy downloaders' speeds Virgin Media has confirmed that it will rollout a traffic management system designed to reduce the downstream speed of customers who download lots of data during peak hours. The cableco defines peak as between 4pm and midnight, and claimed that only the top 5% of downloaders on each speed tier would be affected. Customers on tier M who download over 350MB during peak will have their downstream speed reduced to 1Mbps and their upstream restricted to 128Kbps for four hours. Customers on tier L who download over 750MB during peak will have their downstream reduced to 2Mbps and their upstream restricted to 192Kbps. Customers on Virgin's flagship XL service who download over 3GB during peak will be restricted to 5Mbps down/256Kbps up. The traffic management system is being implemented at the same time as 20Mbps downstream services are being rolled out to XL tier subscribers. __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

08-05-07, 10:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jimdefruit Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,858 Thanks: 20 Thanked 221 Times in 187 Posts	Re: Virgin to cut heavy downloaders' speeds Virgin really are trying hard to cut their own throat aren't they. __________________ Dreambox 800 HD; Dreambox 7000s + VBox + Channel Master 1.2 with 36v actuator CM120 feedhorn and Invacom .3 LNB Skystar 2 PCI card with links to my Dreamboxes If you like what you see here, tell your friends.

08-05-07, 11:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Dodgy Geezer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 9,718 Thanks: 3 Thanked 166 Times in 60 Posts	Re: Virgin to cut heavy downloaders' speeds Yep. How to win friends and influence people... __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

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nanochickin Retired Mod & Sat Guru Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Wolverhampton Posts: 3,825 Thanks: 46 Thanked 338 Times in 270 Posts	Re: Virgin to cut heavy downloaders' speeds If they start to slow me down i will definately be telling them where to go Fair use policy my arse __________________ Sanity is nothing more than an excuse to be boring

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Unknown user #1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 536 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Virgin to cut heavy downloaders' speeds My initial contract with them is ending in June. Might reconsider going back to BT/Zen.

11-05-07, 11:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
wobblywill Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 68 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Virgin to cut heavy downloaders' speeds I recently zapped VM phone and tv and reduced to broadband only. I wont go into boring detail as this is still in dispute however > they came and swapped my stb for a bb modem :? my stb speed on bb size m as monitored on thinkbroadband was up in the region of 1.7 - 1.9 on the bb modem it is 0.9 -1.2 peaking at 1.7 off peak i have checked with my next door neighbour and they are still achieving 1.7 - 1.9 on their stb at the same time I am online as we share the same local hub, am I being overly suspicious as I say this is ongoing and i will fill you in later __________________ Quod Subigo Farinam

11-05-07, 11:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
Analoguesat manic midlander retired mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 11,668 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1,339 Times in 990 Posts	Re: Virgin to cut heavy downloaders' speeds Traffic shaping is becoming increasingly common - the infrastructure cant cope with the really heavy file sharing peeps. Makes you wonder what the hell is going to happen as we move over towards IPTV doesnt it - once the BBC & Sky downloading services starts becoming popular its going to really nail the internet infrastructure as its all p2p based. __________________ Basic forum rules for both satellite & cable: no keys no patches no offering or asking for card shares Anyone pm'ing me for details of card sharing or anything to do with hacking cable will be banned immediately Analogue forever!!

12-05-07, 01:00 AM	#8 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Dodgy Geezer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 9,718 Thanks: 3 Thanked 166 Times in 60 Posts	Re: Virgin to cut heavy downloaders' speeds BT will just have to pull their fingers out of their arse and deliver us the telecoms cabling infrastructure that they should have done 15 years ago. > > > I reckon your speed drop could simply be down to the hardware swap. The regular 'giveaway' modems are often awful. Try replacing it yourself with a decent make and see what you get. I stuck about 20% on by doing just that when I was with Pipex. __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

12-05-07, 01:46 AM	#9 (permalink)
wobblywill Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 68 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Virgin to cut heavy downloaders' speeds Call me cynical if you want but now that BT and VM have a virtual duopoly , are we stuffed ops: __________________ Quod Subigo Farinam

12-05-07, 01:55 AM	#10 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Dodgy Geezer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 9,718 Thanks: 3 Thanked 166 Times in 60 Posts	Re: Virgin to cut heavy downloaders' speeds With the steady LLU rollout and possibilities of either wireless or satellite broadband evolving rapidly, there may be plenty more to chose from than the old enemies soon. __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W