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bigtee · 17-05-07, 01:20 AM

In my experience with the Fortec 5400, I find that when I have loaded softcam, it has generally worked e.g. TPS at the moment. But when I have manually entered keys, it has not been so good. In fairness, I believe that I haven't fully worked out some aspects of entering keys e.g. when to enter 00 and 01 or 10 & 11 (have today learned of 20 & 21 for Technomates!) for Nag*a before the full keys; I can generally enter the rest alright of course; just that prefix bit still has me foxed. :?

BGonaSTICK · 17-05-07, 01:28 AM

...and worst of all, it's receiver-specific!

All depends on how lazy the patchers were. Most of these numbers bear no resemblance to the real key data - not even on the softcam file itself.

Check out a proper softcam.key file for the real deal. It's quite interesting. If you can be bothered to study it over a period of time and see where the keys actually go, you'll learn a lot about satellite encryption without even realising it.

linsladeboy · 17-05-07, 07:04 PM

Aplogies for busting in

ops:, but can one of you experts please clarify whether it is always NECESSARY to update softcam keys on a receiver even though as a personal example I only have TPS/Multivision patched on a fixed Hotbird system and am not currently using any other satellite.

wod · 17-05-07, 08:18 PM

well for you tps is auto update at the moment so you go to france 4 or espn classic channel to update, takes a few seconds

linsladeboy · 17-05-07, 10:12 PM

Hi Wod

I don't think I made myself clear earlier

ops: I already have latest TPS update on my receiver and channels are viewing fine

All I am trying to understand being pretty new to all is this "softcam keys "update given out almost daily on Alsat for Technomate 1000 series as I noticed today.

All I want to know if it is NECESSARY for me to download these keys to my Technomate as a matter of course or not!

I only have dish pointing at Hotbird at present and I have an inkling that these keys are for freeing other packages like Premiere on Astra and so on... is that right?

Mship · 17-05-07, 10:27 PM

Yes, these softcam keys are mainly for D+ on 19E and TV Cabo on 30W. They have no use on 13E I'm afraid

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But at least you've got TPS

Kev

linsladeboy · 17-05-07, 10:39 PM

Thanks Mship

So much to learn and so little time

satsid · 17-05-07, 10:40 PM

hi m8,i dont go on alsat,tps is the norm for 13e.somtimes you might get polsat from 13e.i dont know if this is open atm.but might be worth looking.D+ is ok if you move your dish from 13e to 19e.Prem i think is off now,well it is for me.
sid

wod · 17-05-07, 11:28 PM

as you say your dish is fixed on hotbird why not buy a monoblock lnb so you can have astra 1 aswell

linsladeboy · 18-05-07, 12:27 AM

Hi Wod

I've got motor on dish but not it's not connected

ops:
I initially did a diy install back in February but couldn't get motor set up on the arc, that's why it's on Hotbird for time being. I plan to do a proper connection in the next couple of months now that footie season is over

17-05-07, 01:20 AM	#51 (permalink)
bigtee Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 467 Thanks: 8 Thanked 44 Times in 44 Posts	Re: premiere gone black ? In my experience with the Fortec 5400, I find that when I have loaded softcam, it has generally worked e.g. TPS at the moment. But when I have manually entered keys, it has not been so good. In fairness, I believe that I haven't fully worked out some aspects of entering keys e.g. when to enter 00 and 01 or 10 & 11 (have today learned of 20 & 21 for Technomates!) for Nag*a before the full keys; I can generally enter the rest alright of course; just that prefix bit still has me foxed. :? __________________ Raven 90 multi lnb 1w, 7, 9, 13, 16, 19 & 28e; 1m Orbital on SG 2100 5e-34w; TM1500s, Fortec 5400, Phoenix Apollo & Kathrein (analogue) Receivers

17-05-07, 01:28 AM	#52 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Super Murderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 10,632 Thanks: 3 Thanked 62 Times in 36 Posts	Re: premiere gone black ? ...and worst of all, it's receiver-specific! All depends on how lazy the patchers were. Most of these numbers bear no resemblance to the real key data - not even on the softcam file itself. Check out a proper softcam.key file for the real deal. It's quite interesting. If you can be bothered to study it over a period of time and see where the keys actually go, you'll learn a lot about satellite encryption without even realising it. __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

17-05-07, 07:04 PM	#53 (permalink)
linsladeboy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 182 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: premiere gone black ? Aplogies for busting in ops:, but can one of you experts please clarify whether it is always NECESSARY to update softcam keys on a receiver even though as a personal example I only have TPS/Multivision patched on a fixed Hotbird system and am not currently using any other satellite.

17-05-07, 08:18 PM	#54 (permalink)
wod Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,996 Thanks: 10 Thanked 35 Times in 34 Posts	Re: premiere gone black ? well for you tps is auto update at the moment so you go to france 4 or espn classic channel to update, takes a few seconds __________________ 90cm andrews/jaeger 1224 motor,Vantage x221tsci, tms-1500ci+, skystar 2, diablo v2.3 setanta on 60cm minidish

17-05-07, 10:12 PM	#55 (permalink)
linsladeboy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 182 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: premiere gone black ? Hi Wod I don't think I made myself clear earlier ops: I already have latest TPS update on my receiver and channels are viewing fine All I am trying to understand being pretty new to all is this "softcam keys "update given out almost daily on Alsat for Technomate 1000 series as I noticed today. All I want to know if it is NECESSARY for me to download these keys to my Technomate as a matter of course or not! I only have dish pointing at Hotbird at present and I have an inkling that these keys are for freeing other packages like Premiere on Astra and so on... is that right?


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17-05-07, 10:27 PM	#56 (permalink)
Mship Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Workington, Cumbria Posts: 1,002 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: premiere gone black ? Yes, these softcam keys are mainly for D+ on 19E and TV Cabo on 30W. They have no use on 13E I'm afraid . But at least you've got TPS Kev __________________ 1m CM, feedhorn + Invacom C120 Quad, 36v Jaeger 128 motor, TM 6900 HD + 160gb HDD, TM 1500 CI+ Super, Skystar 2, DigitAlb Gold, Samsung 40F86BDX LCD

17-05-07, 10:39 PM	#57 (permalink)
linsladeboy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 182 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: premiere gone black ? Thanks Mship So much to learn and so little time

17-05-07, 10:40 PM	#58 (permalink)
satsid Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,678 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: premiere gone black ? hi m8,i dont go on alsat,tps is the norm for 13e.somtimes you might get polsat from 13e.i dont know if this is open atm.but might be worth looking.D+ is ok if you move your dish from 13e to 19e.Prem i think is off now,well it is for me. sid

17-05-07, 11:28 PM	#59 (permalink)
wod Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,996 Thanks: 10 Thanked 35 Times in 34 Posts	Re: premiere gone black ? as you say your dish is fixed on hotbird why not buy a monoblock lnb so you can have astra 1 aswell __________________ 90cm andrews/jaeger 1224 motor,Vantage x221tsci, tms-1500ci+, skystar 2, diablo v2.3 setanta on 60cm minidish

18-05-07, 12:27 AM	#60 (permalink)
linsladeboy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 182 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: premiere gone black ? Hi Wod I've got motor on dish but not it's not connected ops: I initially did a diy install back in February but couldn't get motor set up on the arc, that's why it's on Hotbird for time being. I plan to do a proper connection in the next couple of months now that footie season is over