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Unknown user #1 · 31-05-07, 09:05 PM

As you know, I just bought TM-9100 and here is my first question:

I want to be able to stream live content from TM to my DLink DSM-320RD, which is UPnP AV media box. I also want to be able to switch channels via DLink remote (I'm probably asking too much

). Is there such as UPnP AV plugin thing available or should I write my own? If it is the latter, then can someone point me to plugin writer's guide? How should it interface with TM software and where can I get cross-compiler tools?

Jimdefruit · 31-05-07, 09:17 PM

With the dreambox, you can http://dream IP and it will open a control window for the dreambox after you enter the dreambox login and password. I imagine the Techy is similar. You may also be able to install VLC which will allow you to sream video.

Unknown user #1 · 31-05-07, 09:25 PM

VLC is not an option as my media network is entirely PC-less. It consists of NAS and 3 media players, two of which are game consoles. The remaining one is dedicated DVD/Network media player, which I want to use as a 'proxy' sat receiver.
In short, the idea is as follows:

Satbox presents available channels as file list to player. Then, user chooses "file" from the list and satbox is streaming MPEG2 straight to player. No conversion should be required (this is my guess), unless MPEG container is significantly different from what player is expecting. Pressing Prev/Next buttons on player sends command to satbox, which should change channel.

Of course, to do this, the satbox should announce itself as UPnP AV server, just like TVersity or Twonkyvision. Then, DSM should accept it and be able to choose "files".

Is such thing exists? If not, then where can I get developer's kti and some information about plugin interface?

teck · 01-06-07, 10:07 AM

i found this on another forum:

If the NAS is like NSLU2 from Linksys or Linux embeded with Samba, you can mount directly from the 'Communication panel' the share with the right informations.

you can mount a folder on receiver from your windows. you can try : file://IP_OF_YOUR_BOX

also, CIFS work

Unknown user #1 · 01-06-07, 10:29 AM

Samba on Slug is all good and such... but - the question is how can you select the channel on satbox in case of SMB or CIFS (same thing really)?
My idea was to create a 'virtual satbox' for remote location, so that I won't have to lay cables and upgrade my LNBs.

BGonaSTICK · 01-06-07, 12:29 PM

The easiest way to command it would be via a web interface. Does the 9100 have a web interface?

How else would you expect to do it without writing your own channel-switching code?

I suppose you could look at the webIF code to get a clue on any API's.

Unknown user #1 · 01-06-07, 01:05 PM

HTTP interface is pretty much useless for media renderer. The channel switching code is a problem, however, the idea is to represent channels as list of 'files'. The UPnP AV renderer normally doesn't understand channels, but it knows how to handle file list. Once 'file' is selected, the renderer sending connection request to server. The server (TM9100 plugin) should look in selected 'file name' and change channel accordingly, then start streaming MPEG2.TS to renderer.

Here is UPnP AV protocol description: http://www.upnp.org/specs/av/UPnP-av...1-20020622.pdf

In case of DSM-320RD the renderer and control point are the same unit, so internal interactions are done by DLink software. What is needed is to create UPnP AV server for TM9100 (or Dreambox), which will be able to present channels as 'files' and stream TS over network. In such case, it'll be completely transparent to user and no additional software/hardware will be required.

Sure, it sounds simpler that it is, but if you guys know some team or can point me to some place where I could get access to TM9100 firmware source code and plugin spec, then I might try to implement it. Not sure if I would be able to do so, but at least I could try.

BGonaSTICK · 01-06-07, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRookie

Sure, it sounds simpler that it is...

Sounds like so much techno-babble to me I'm afraid, but good luck anyway...

Unknown user #1 · 04-06-07, 10:51 AM

I created similar thread on A l s a t forum and got some replies. Now, I need to check whether DSM can read MPEG2 .TS without transcoding.

Unknown user #1 · 20-06-07, 11:46 PM

Finally found some time to play with Techie. To cut long story short - this is one bloody cool device!
The lack of chasing recording sucks big time, however, and my understanding is that it is impossible to fix due to hardware limitations.

I installed UPnP server on TM-9100 (Twonkyvision for DM-7020) and DLink DSM320 happily picking up saved videos. But no live stream, unfortunately.

31-05-07, 09:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
Unknown user #1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 536 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	TM-9100: UPnP AV plugin? As you know, I just bought TM-9100 and here is my first question: I want to be able to stream live content from TM to my DLink DSM-320RD, which is UPnP AV media box. I also want to be able to switch channels via DLink remote (I'm probably asking too much ). Is there such as UPnP AV plugin thing available or should I write my own? If it is the latter, then can someone point me to plugin writer's guide? How should it interface with TM software and where can I get cross-compiler tools?

31-05-07, 09:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jimdefruit Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,858 Thanks: 20 Thanked 221 Times in 187 Posts	Re: TM-9100: UPnP AV plugin? With the dreambox, you can http://dream IP and it will open a control window for the dreambox after you enter the dreambox login and password. I imagine the Techy is similar. You may also be able to install VLC which will allow you to sream video. __________________ Dreambox 800 HD; Dreambox 7000s + VBox + Channel Master 1.2 with 36v actuator CM120 feedhorn and Invacom .3 LNB Skystar 2 PCI card with links to my Dreamboxes If you like what you see here, tell your friends.

31-05-07, 09:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
Unknown user #1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 536 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: TM-9100: UPnP AV plugin? VLC is not an option as my media network is entirely PC-less. It consists of NAS and 3 media players, two of which are game consoles. The remaining one is dedicated DVD/Network media player, which I want to use as a 'proxy' sat receiver. In short, the idea is as follows: Satbox presents available channels as file list to player. Then, user chooses "file" from the list and satbox is streaming MPEG2 straight to player. No conversion should be required (this is my guess), unless MPEG container is significantly different from what player is expecting. Pressing Prev/Next buttons on player sends command to satbox, which should change channel. Of course, to do this, the satbox should announce itself as UPnP AV server, just like TVersity or Twonkyvision. Then, DSM should accept it and be able to choose "files". Is such thing exists? If not, then where can I get developer's kti and some information about plugin interface?

01-06-07, 10:07 AM	#4 (permalink)
teck Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: TM-9100: UPnP AV plugin? i found this on another forum: If the NAS is like NSLU2 from Linksys or Linux embeded with Samba, you can mount directly from the 'Communication panel' the share with the right informations. you can mount a folder on receiver from your windows. you can try : file://IP_OF_YOUR_BOX also, CIFS work

01-06-07, 10:29 AM	#5 (permalink)
Unknown user #1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 536 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: TM-9100: UPnP AV plugin? Samba on Slug is all good and such... but - the question is how can you select the channel on satbox in case of SMB or CIFS (same thing really)? My idea was to create a 'virtual satbox' for remote location, so that I won't have to lay cables and upgrade my LNBs.

01-06-07, 12:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Dodgy Geezer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 9,718 Thanks: 3 Thanked 163 Times in 57 Posts	Re: TM-9100: UPnP AV plugin? The easiest way to command it would be via a web interface. Does the 9100 have a web interface? How else would you expect to do it without writing your own channel-switching code? I suppose you could look at the webIF code to get a clue on any API's. __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

01-06-07, 01:05 PM	#7 (permalink)
Unknown user #1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 536 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: TM-9100: UPnP AV plugin? HTTP interface is pretty much useless for media renderer. The channel switching code is a problem, however, the idea is to represent channels as list of 'files'. The UPnP AV renderer normally doesn't understand channels, but it knows how to handle file list. Once 'file' is selected, the renderer sending connection request to server. The server (TM9100 plugin) should look in selected 'file name' and change channel accordingly, then start streaming MPEG2.TS to renderer. Here is UPnP AV protocol description: http://www.upnp.org/specs/av/UPnP-av...1-20020622.pdf In case of DSM-320RD the renderer and control point are the same unit, so internal interactions are done by DLink software. What is needed is to create UPnP AV server for TM9100 (or Dreambox), which will be able to present channels as 'files' and stream TS over network. In such case, it'll be completely transparent to user and no additional software/hardware will be required. Sure, it sounds simpler that it is, but if you guys know some team or can point me to some place where I could get access to TM9100 firmware source code and plugin spec, then I might try to implement it. Not sure if I would be able to do so, but at least I could try.

04-06-07, 10:51 AM	#9 (permalink)
Unknown user #1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 536 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: TM-9100: UPnP AV plugin? I created similar thread on A l s a t forum and got some replies. Now, I need to check whether DSM can read MPEG2 .TS without transcoding.

20-06-07, 11:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
Unknown user #1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 536 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: TM-9100: UPnP AV plugin? Finally found some time to play with Techie. To cut long story short - this is one bloody cool device! The lack of chasing recording sucks big time, however, and my understanding is that it is impossible to fix due to hardware limitations. I installed UPnP server on TM-9100 (Twonkyvision for DM-7020) and DLink DSM320 happily picking up saved videos. But no live stream, unfortunately.