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bigG · 09-07-07, 08:25 PM

Hi guys

I'm on the final approach to having my new setup. However, I have just one last question before I splash the cash. I am looking to put up a 90cm-1m dish in place of my old analogue S k y dish in order to get DigitALB 16e and hotbird 13 e with a monoblock. Please have a look at the photos (hopefully attached) and tell me if next doors tree may get in the way of a signal. Any opinions will be greatfully received.

$ly · 09-07-07, 08:34 PM

Possibly is the answer.
How is it on 19E at the moment I wonder ??.

Looking at your pictures (always good to provide these) a possible get out would be to mount the dish at the apex of your gable end. That would be a solution unless that tree is going to grow another 30 feet anytime soon.

Rgds

L.

BGonaSTICK · 09-07-07, 08:46 PM

My guess would be that the tree is way too low to get in the way, but they do have a habit of growing!

How much higher than the dish does it stand, and how far away is it?

How fast has it grown so far?

bigG · 09-07-07, 08:47 PM

Thanks Lancelot

I think my biggest concern is that I don't want to fork out for a new receiver, dish and DigitAlb card if I won't be able to get a decent signal.

So long as I will be able to mount a 1m dish somewhere on that wall (no line of sight in my back garden and can't have the dish in the front garden) and get a decent signal, I'll be happy

bigG · 09-07-07, 08:56 PM

Hi stick

I don't have a ladder tall enough (and I wouldn't go up it if I did

ops: I've got a mate for that!) to see the exact line of sight above the tree, it's probably 50cm-1m higher than the gutter (rough guestimate that!) and probably 7-10m diagonally from the corner of my house (although, again I'm not much good at guessing distances). It doesn't grow that quickly, so it won't change drastically in the next few years.

BGonaSTICK · 09-07-07, 09:06 PM

Go for it. I think it'll be fine. Your biggest problem will be avoiding the minidish.

$ly · 09-07-07, 09:07 PM

By your figures, the current height of the dish should be sufficient by quite a margin.
The rough guide being twice as far away as the obstuction is high, for sats in the centre of the arc.
(and you're saying it's only another metre higher than the dish is now)

I'd certainly be inclined to go for it 'as is' and see what results you get with the reciever in situ.
You definitely have a lot of legroom by moving the antenna up another six to eight feet towards the apex should the need arise.

'Snap' Stick

Rgds

l.

bigG · 09-07-07, 09:13 PM

Cheers guys, I think I know what to do.

The minidish is another matter. I'll just have to make sure the new dish doesn't get in the way. Shouldn't be too much of a problem though.

Thanks again

Jimdefruit · 10-07-07, 07:47 AM

Hi bigG, do you know what species of tree it is? It appears to be a deciduous model so you should be ok for the Digitalb footy through the winter even if it does grow.

bigG · 10-07-07, 08:43 AM

Hi Jimdefruit

I'm not sure what type of tree it is. It's not a pine or oak! I need to get out my little book of trees.

From what Lancelot says, and what I think based on that, I should be alright. So it looks like full steam ahead!

09-07-07, 08:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
bigG Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Line of sight Hi guys I'm on the final approach to having my new setup. However, I have just one last question before I splash the cash. I am looking to put up a 90cm-1m dish in place of my old analogue S k y dish in order to get DigitALB 16e and hotbird 13 e with a monoblock. Please have a look at the photos (hopefully attached) and tell me if next doors tree may get in the way of a signal. Any opinions will be greatfully received.

09-07-07, 08:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
$ly Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Out There Posts: 496 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Line of sight Possibly is the answer. How is it on 19E at the moment I wonder ??. Looking at your pictures (always good to provide these) a possible get out would be to mount the dish at the apex of your gable end. That would be a solution unless that tree is going to grow another 30 feet anytime soon. Rgds L.

09-07-07, 08:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Super Murderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 10,626 Thanks: 3 Thanked 53 Times in 34 Posts	Re: Line of sight My guess would be that the tree is way too low to get in the way, but they do have a habit of growing! How much higher than the dish does it stand, and how far away is it? How fast has it grown so far? __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

09-07-07, 08:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
bigG Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Line of sight Thanks Lancelot I think my biggest concern is that I don't want to fork out for a new receiver, dish and DigitAlb card if I won't be able to get a decent signal. So long as I will be able to mount a 1m dish somewhere on that wall (no line of sight in my back garden and can't have the dish in the front garden) and get a decent signal, I'll be happy

09-07-07, 08:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
bigG Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Line of sight Hi stick I don't have a ladder tall enough (and I wouldn't go up it if I did ops: I've got a mate for that!) to see the exact line of sight above the tree, it's probably 50cm-1m higher than the gutter (rough guestimate that!) and probably 7-10m diagonally from the corner of my house (although, again I'm not much good at guessing distances). It doesn't grow that quickly, so it won't change drastically in the next few years.


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09-07-07, 09:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Super Murderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 10,626 Thanks: 3 Thanked 53 Times in 34 Posts	Re: Line of sight Go for it. I think it'll be fine. Your biggest problem will be avoiding the minidish. __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

09-07-07, 09:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
$ly Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Out There Posts: 496 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Line of sight By your figures, the current height of the dish should be sufficient by quite a margin. The rough guide being twice as far away as the obstuction is high, for sats in the centre of the arc. (and you're saying it's only another metre higher than the dish is now) I'd certainly be inclined to go for it 'as is' and see what results you get with the reciever in situ. You definitely have a lot of legroom by moving the antenna up another six to eight feet towards the apex should the need arise. 'Snap' Stick Rgds l.

09-07-07, 09:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
bigG Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Line of sight Cheers guys, I think I know what to do. The minidish is another matter. I'll just have to make sure the new dish doesn't get in the way. Shouldn't be too much of a problem though. Thanks again

10-07-07, 07:47 AM	#9 (permalink)
Jimdefruit Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,642 Thanks: 10 Thanked 88 Times in 83 Posts	Re: Line of sight Hi bigG, do you know what species of tree it is? It appears to be a deciduous model so you should be ok for the Digitalb footy through the winter even if it does grow. __________________ Dreambox 7000s + VBox + Channel Master 1.2 with 36v actuator CM120 feedhorn and Invacom .3 LNB Skystar 2 PCI card with links to my Dreambox If you like what you see here, tell your friends.

10-07-07, 08:43 AM	#10 (permalink)
bigG Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Line of sight Hi Jimdefruit I'm not sure what type of tree it is. It's not a pine or oak! I need to get out my little book of trees. From what Lancelot says, and what I think based on that, I should be alright. So it looks like full steam ahead!