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sterbik · 03-08-07, 12:18 PM

I want to connect to astra2 and eurobird1 (28 degree to the east), currently I am on Astra 19.2E, where do i have to move the dish, up/down, left right? If my coordinates are correct the elevation has to be at 36, the azimuth 167 and the LNB skew 9 degree. It's very similar to astra1. Do I just have to move the dish a little to the left? May then I get signal?

Jimdefruit · 03-08-07, 12:49 PM

Looking at the dish from the satellite position, move the dish to the right and down a bit. The amount you move it is 28.2-19.2 = 9 degrees. The lnb need to be turned to the right about 9 degrees as well --ish.

If you are likely to move the dish very often, then it would be worthwhile getting a polar mount or a motor which automatically makes the up/down and skew corrections for you.

sterbik · 03-08-07, 01:18 PM

A little right and down a bit? According to Clark belt and FastSatFinder I have to turn it to the left. That will be difficult because the chimney won't let me move the dish left enough. I hope your calculations are correct.
The screenhot of FastSatFinder can be viewed here: _http://www.vetrun.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7130&page=8
At post number #116
And the Clarke Belt calculations: _http://www.vetrun.net/forums/showpost.php?p=81211&postcount=36
You results are against these one.

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sterbik · 03-08-07, 01:26 PM

No, wait, you are correct. It's the same. Do I have to be behind south when looking at Clark Belt? Is it practical to move the dish to the right first and just after that a little down. How many degree?
And sorry for posting an other forum's website here, but I couldn't upload the pictures from my PC. It won't happen again.

Analoguesat · 03-08-07, 01:41 PM

Its left and down a smidgen if you are behind the dish

sterbik · 03-08-07, 01:45 PM

Have to turn it left, looking from behind the dish.

I will have problems.

sterbik · 03-08-07, 03:28 PM

If I want to connect to eurobird1 28.5E, which transponder do I have to pick for searching?
I have signal, 82-90%, but I can't get picture. Are you sure that Eurobird's Sky Digital packages are free to air? I used 10832,H,22000 for astra 1. I can only receive few radio and tv channels. I mean 10 or less.

sterbik · 03-08-07, 08:44 PM

I haven't configure the frequency, symbol rate, FEC etc. I don't know the correct numbers. Please give me the transponder that I need to receive all the channels.

bigtee · 03-08-07, 11:21 PM

Use information in the link below; once you get used to the layout, you will find all the info about transponders and which channels are on them, which are FTA etc.

http://www.lyngsat.com/28east.html

sterbik · 04-08-07, 09:13 AM

Si if I choose 12129-V-27500 as a transponder I will only receive few channels in that group or all? In that transponder is a music channel that I want to watch (B4U music UK). I am using a software called FastSatFinder to find a satellite. It is like a real satfinder. I connect it to my PC receiver (skystar2). It will detect the satellite even if I have only 26% signal. And I need a transponder for searching a satellite. I previously said that what kind of transponder did I use to detect astra1. I'm using a PC card. I have a Tv receiver, but it is not programmed to astra2 and eurobird1, I have to manually configure it.
I can choose from these transponders. Maybe I can download more:
10714,H,22000
10729,V,22000
10744,H,22000
10758,V,22000
10773,H,22000
10788,V,22000
10803,H,22000
10818,V,22000
10832,H,22000
110847,V,22000
10862,H,22000
10876,V,22000
10891,H,22000
10906,V,22000
10921,H,22000
11222,H,27500
11222,V,27500
11260,V,27500
11264,H,22000
11307,H,27500
11307,V,27500
11343,V,27500
11344,H,27500
11389,H,27500
11389,V,27500
11426,V,27500
11428,H,22000
11469,H,27500
11499,V,10125
11508,H,27500
11527,V,27500
11546,H,27500
11565,V,27500
11585,H,27500
11604,V,27500
11623,H,27500
11642,V,27500
11662,H,27500
11681,V,27500
11720,H,27500
11739,V,27500
11758,H,27500
11798,H,29000
11817,V,27500
11836,H,27500
11856,V,27500
11876,H,27500
11895,V,27500
11914,H,27500
11934,V,27500
11973,V,27500
11992,H,27500
12012,V,27500
12032,H,27500
12051,V,27500
12070,H,27500
12090,V,27500
12110,H,27500
12129,V,27500
12148,H,27500
12168,V,27500
12188,H,27500
12207,V,27500
12226,H,27500
12246,V,27500
12266,H,27500
12285,V,27500
12304,H,27500
12324,V,29000
12344,H,29000
12363,V,27500
12382,H,27500
12402,V,27500
12422,H,27500
12441,V,27500
12460,H,27500
12480,V,27500
12511,V,6666
12519,V,6111
12524,H,27500
12528,V,6111
12537,V,6111
12546,V,6111
12555,V,6111
12571,V,2894
12574,V,2894
12593,V,6111
12602,V,6111
12611,V,6111
12620,V,6111
12629,V,6111
12638,V,6111
12647,V,6111
12656,V,6111
I chose one transponder above, but I received channels from astra 19.2, not from astra2 and eurobird1

03-08-07, 12:18 PM	#11 (permalink)
sterbik Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Europe: Serbia Posts: 98 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: How to measure elevation correctly? I want to connect to astra2 and eurobird1 (28 degree to the east), currently I am on Astra 19.2E, where do i have to move the dish, up/down, left right? If my coordinates are correct the elevation has to be at 36, the azimuth 167 and the LNB skew 9 degree. It's very similar to astra1. Do I just have to move the dish a little to the left? May then I get signal?

03-08-07, 12:49 PM	#12 (permalink)
Jimdefruit Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,775 Thanks: 10 Thanked 113 Times in 105 Posts	Re: How to measure elevation correctly? Looking at the dish from the satellite position, move the dish to the right and down a bit. The amount you move it is 28.2-19.2 = 9 degrees. The lnb need to be turned to the right about 9 degrees as well --ish. If you are likely to move the dish very often, then it would be worthwhile getting a polar mount or a motor which automatically makes the up/down and skew corrections for you. __________________ Dreambox 800 HD; Dreambox 7000s + VBox + Channel Master 1.2 with 36v actuator CM120 feedhorn and Invacom .3 LNB Skystar 2 PCI card with links to my Dreambox If you like what you see here, tell your friends.

03-08-07, 01:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
sterbik Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Europe: Serbia Posts: 98 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: How to measure elevation correctly? A little right and down a bit? According to Clark belt and FastSatFinder I have to turn it to the left. That will be difficult because the chimney won't let me move the dish left enough. I hope your calculations are correct. The screenhot of FastSatFinder can be viewed here: _http://www.vetrun.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7130&page=8 At post number #116 And the Clarke Belt calculations: _http://www.vetrun.net/forums/showpost.php?p=81211&postcount=36 You results are against these one. [Edited] NO live links to forums - please read the rules

03-08-07, 01:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
sterbik Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Europe: Serbia Posts: 98 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: How to measure elevation correctly? No, wait, you are correct. It's the same. Do I have to be behind south when looking at Clark Belt? Is it practical to move the dish to the right first and just after that a little down. How many degree? And sorry for posting an other forum's website here, but I couldn't upload the pictures from my PC. It won't happen again.

03-08-07, 01:41 PM	#15 (permalink)
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03-08-07, 01:45 PM	#16 (permalink)
sterbik Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Europe: Serbia Posts: 98 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: How to measure elevation correctly? Have to turn it left, looking from behind the dish. I will have problems.

03-08-07, 03:28 PM	#17 (permalink)
sterbik Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Europe: Serbia Posts: 98 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: How to measure elevation correctly? If I want to connect to eurobird1 28.5E, which transponder do I have to pick for searching? I have signal, 82-90%, but I can't get picture. Are you sure that Eurobird's Sky Digital packages are free to air? I used 10832,H,22000 for astra 1. I can only receive few radio and tv channels. I mean 10 or less.

03-08-07, 08:44 PM	#18 (permalink)
sterbik Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Europe: Serbia Posts: 98 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: How to measure elevation correctly? I haven't configure the frequency, symbol rate, FEC etc. I don't know the correct numbers. Please give me the transponder that I need to receive all the channels.

03-08-07, 11:21 PM	#19 (permalink)
bigtee Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 468 Thanks: 8 Thanked 44 Times in 44 Posts	Re: How to measure elevation correctly? Use information in the link below; once you get used to the layout, you will find all the info about transponders and which channels are on them, which are FTA etc. http://www.lyngsat.com/28east.html __________________ Raven 90 multi lnb 1w, 7, 9, 13, 16, 19 & 28e; 1m Orbital on SG 2100 5e-34w; TM1500s, Fortec 5400, Phoenix Apollo & Kathrein (analogue) Receivers

04-08-07, 09:13 AM	#20 (permalink)
sterbik Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Europe: Serbia Posts: 98 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: How to measure elevation correctly? Si if I choose 12129-V-27500 as a transponder I will only receive few channels in that group or all? In that transponder is a music channel that I want to watch (B4U music UK). I am using a software called FastSatFinder to find a satellite. It is like a real satfinder. I connect it to my PC receiver (skystar2). It will detect the satellite even if I have only 26% signal. And I need a transponder for searching a satellite. I previously said that what kind of transponder did I use to detect astra1. I'm using a PC card. I have a Tv receiver, but it is not programmed to astra2 and eurobird1, I have to manually configure it. I can choose from these transponders. Maybe I can download more: 10714,H,22000 10729,V,22000 10744,H,22000 10758,V,22000 10773,H,22000 10788,V,22000 10803,H,22000 10818,V,22000 10832,H,22000 110847,V,22000 10862,H,22000 10876,V,22000 10891,H,22000 10906,V,22000 10921,H,22000 11222,H,27500 11222,V,27500 11260,V,27500 11264,H,22000 11307,H,27500 11307,V,27500 11343,V,27500 11344,H,27500 11389,H,27500 11389,V,27500 11426,V,27500 11428,H,22000 11469,H,27500 11499,V,10125 11508,H,27500 11527,V,27500 11546,H,27500 11565,V,27500 11585,H,27500 11604,V,27500 11623,H,27500 11642,V,27500 11662,H,27500 11681,V,27500 11720,H,27500 11739,V,27500 11758,H,27500 11798,H,29000 11817,V,27500 11836,H,27500 11856,V,27500 11876,H,27500 11895,V,27500 11914,H,27500 11934,V,27500 11973,V,27500 11992,H,27500 12012,V,27500 12032,H,27500 12051,V,27500 12070,H,27500 12090,V,27500 12110,H,27500 12129,V,27500 12148,H,27500 12168,V,27500 12188,H,27500 12207,V,27500 12226,H,27500 12246,V,27500 12266,H,27500 12285,V,27500 12304,H,27500 12324,V,29000 12344,H,29000 12363,V,27500 12382,H,27500 12402,V,27500 12422,H,27500 12441,V,27500 12460,H,27500 12480,V,27500 12511,V,6666 12519,V,6111 12524,H,27500 12528,V,6111 12537,V,6111 12546,V,6111 12555,V,6111 12571,V,2894 12574,V,2894 12593,V,6111 12602,V,6111 12611,V,6111 12620,V,6111 12629,V,6111 12638,V,6111 12647,V,6111 12656,V,6111 I chose one transponder above, but I received channels from astra 19.2, not from astra2 and eurobird1