Confused about entering keys etc.

[malc]

My sl65/12 is patched ok,when i get the key menu i have options of different encryptions eg nagra etc and also providers these options appear to be available to all scrambled channels how do i know which encryption or provider is doing this channel, i have inputted keys found on the web etc ie d+ and have selected the appropriate id no at the bottom of the menu there are about 16 sepparate locations to input the code on some channels it says 3 keys or 5keys but when i get a key of the net it is either 1 key or 2 keys etc what do i do is it a matter of inputting new keys till i have the reqd number or am i missing something, i am inputting them using the numbers and the info key for the letters it is driving me nuts i have tried on 28.2 and 18.2 up to now any ideas where i am going wrong. :?

[BGonaSTICK]

I don't know this receiver or it's patch, so the exact details will have to wait for someone else to answer, but firstly, there is nothing open on 28.2E at all, and when you say 18.2 I assume you mean 19.2E.

D+ keys change roughly twice a day at the moment, so it's likely the keys you tried were out of date.

Try the keys for Premiere. They are more static.

In the overall 'ID' for each key, there is a code for CAID (Conditional Access ID or 'encryption type') and ProvID (provider ID) - there are many combinations but you'll soon learn which systems/providers are compromised. Premiere use Nagravision 2 for example.

Each provider can use one or more encryption systems, and indeed may use more than one provider ID. They also utilise a number of individual keys differentiated by an 'index' number - 01, 08 etc. - often used to preload the next key in advance of a change,when they switch which key index is 'current'. Usually only one is current at a time, but this is also dependant on type/format.

Search around the 'Net for a file called 'softcam.key' until you find one which has some text at the top explaining the format of the contained data and you'll soon get a feel for how it works.

STICK

[malc]

Thanks for that ,yep i did mean 19.2 what you say explains why i havnt had any luck on 28.2 will try again on 19.2.