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BGonaSTICK · 16-08-07, 09:15 PM

You can post a mangled/dead link or mail me - admin'at'satellitehelp.co.uk

andysly · 16-08-07, 09:30 PM

ok we shall use a mangled link..
must of got my wires crossed with ref the file size..

but you will see anyway

www(dot)yousendit(dot)com/transfer(dot)php?action=download&ufid=4C9406E91257 D76E

cheers for takeing a look

we may learn someting tonight.

BGonaSTICK · 16-08-07, 10:13 PM

Hmm, maybe not tonight

The files are so completely different that a compare doesn't tell me anything right off the bat. I think I'll need some sort of file layout, though there does appear to be an altered header record.

My guess is that these files came from a completely different source originally. Do they both load, or only one? If only one, which is good?

I'll have to have a look at it over the weekend if I get a chance. If you know of a good repository of SL65-specific files, let me know.

andysly · 16-08-07, 11:12 PM

yes the 2 files do work with out no issues..
i got one from here and the second from ____www(dot)dream-pirates(dot)gmc.to/wbb2/thread.php?threadid=4511
the second one is clearing orf aswell...

BGonaSTICK · 16-08-07, 11:36 PM

Okay. It's not the same file format as a normal keys.bin by the look of it. Can't spend any more time right now. Must sleep

andysly · 17-08-07, 12:14 PM

cheers for takeing a loook at the files m8..
lets hope we can fathom it out :d

regards

BGonaSTICK · 17-08-07, 06:21 PM

Right. It's completely different to the standard Humax/CAPi .bin file. That's why the converter doesn't work (I found a v2.0 BTW). It doesn't produce an error message, but it should.

I also tried ragabbaders excellent v7 editor - works fine on regular keys.bin files and softcam.key files converted & output by the converter above, but not on the proprietary SL65 files.

The layout is obviously different for a reason - probably to retain some degree of control over releases for the box.

I chucked a couple of binary analysis tools at it, but nothing obvious jumped out. As interesting as I find this, I don't want to be a sat-scene file-guy and I don't want to write an key-editor for the Silvercrest either.

The two files I looked at were so different that nothing useful showed up. If they had only been different by a single key value, it would have made the translation process much quicker - at least to begin with.

As far as I can tell, third party support for this box is both messy and patchy, if you'll excuse the pun.

solunauk · 07-10-07, 07:14 PM

I just came across something on sat-ulc which may help. It's described as "Keyeditor for ALI Chip firmware SW_SL65_A.bin. Imports softkeys from local and internet. Tested on SL 35 1 CI. Supposedly supports BISS and TPS. BISS not tested and TPS changed algo few days ago. No TPS.bins to play with for the testing."
It was dated 16/4/07 so obviously the keys aren't up to date but it may be the right tool.

I can't upload it here because it's nearly 4MB. If anyone wants to have a play then PM me and I'll send it to your off-board email address. I'd have a look myself but it's all a bit beyond me :?

Sol

BGonaSTICK · 07-10-07, 09:33 PM

Maybe someone has uploaded it to a free file host?

You could post a dead link to that if you could find one.

solunauk · 07-10-07, 10:11 PM

Ok, it's on this page _h**p://www.sat-ulc.com/ulc/jgs_db.php?action=showkat&katid=25&sid=&page=2 about halfway down - look for the posting date 16/4/07. Also there's another likely candidate dated 12/5/07 on the same page.

16-08-07, 09:15 PM	#11 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Super Murderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 10,626 Thanks: 3 Thanked 53 Times in 34 Posts	Re: key*****.bin editor You can post a mangled/dead link or mail me - admin'at'satellitehelp.co.uk __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

16-08-07, 09:30 PM	#12 (permalink)
andysly Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: southwest uk Posts: 178 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: key*****.bin editor ok we shall use a mangled link.. must of got my wires crossed with ref the file size.. but you will see anyway www(dot)yousendit(dot)com/transfer(dot)php?action=download&ufid=4C9406E91257 D76E cheers for takeing a look we may learn someting tonight.

16-08-07, 10:13 PM	#13 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Super Murderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 10,626 Thanks: 3 Thanked 53 Times in 34 Posts	Re: key*****.bin editor Hmm, maybe not tonight The files are so completely different that a compare doesn't tell me anything right off the bat. I think I'll need some sort of file layout, though there does appear to be an altered header record. My guess is that these files came from a completely different source originally. Do they both load, or only one? If only one, which is good? I'll have to have a look at it over the weekend if I get a chance. If you know of a good repository of SL65-specific files, let me know. __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

16-08-07, 11:12 PM	#14 (permalink)
andysly Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: southwest uk Posts: 178 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: key*****.bin editor yes the 2 files do work with out no issues.. i got one from here and the second from ____www(dot)dream-pirates(dot)gmc.to/wbb2/thread.php?threadid=4511 the second one is clearing orf aswell...

16-08-07, 11:36 PM	#15 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Super Murderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 10,626 Thanks: 3 Thanked 53 Times in 34 Posts	Re: key*****.bin editor Okay. It's not the same file format as a normal keys.bin by the look of it. Can't spend any more time right now. Must sleep __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W


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17-08-07, 12:14 PM	#16 (permalink)
andysly Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: southwest uk Posts: 178 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: key*****.bin editor cheers for takeing a loook at the files m8.. lets hope we can fathom it out :d regards

17-08-07, 06:21 PM	#17 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Super Murderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 10,626 Thanks: 3 Thanked 53 Times in 34 Posts	Re: key*****.bin editor Right. It's completely different to the standard Humax/CAPi .bin file. That's why the converter doesn't work (I found a v2.0 BTW). It doesn't produce an error message, but it should. I also tried ragabbaders excellent v7 editor - works fine on regular keys.bin files and softcam.key files converted & output by the converter above, but not on the proprietary SL65 files. The layout is obviously different for a reason - probably to retain some degree of control over releases for the box. I chucked a couple of binary analysis tools at it, but nothing obvious jumped out. As interesting as I find this, I don't want to be a sat-scene file-guy and I don't want to write an key-editor for the Silvercrest either. The two files I looked at were so different that nothing useful showed up. If they had only been different by a single key value, it would have made the translation process much quicker - at least to begin with. As far as I can tell, third party support for this box is both messy and patchy, if you'll excuse the pun. __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

07-10-07, 07:14 PM	#18 (permalink)
solunauk Look into my eyes ... Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: South West UK Posts: 313 Thanks: 3 Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts	Re: key*****.bin editor I just came across something on sat-ulc which may help. It's described as "Keyeditor for ALI Chip firmware SW_SL65_A.bin. Imports softkeys from local and internet. Tested on SL 35 1 CI. Supposedly supports BISS and TPS. BISS not tested and TPS changed algo few days ago. No TPS.bins to play with for the testing." It was dated 16/4/07 so obviously the keys aren't up to date but it may be the right tool. I can't upload it here because it's nearly 4MB. If anyone wants to have a play then PM me and I'll send it to your off-board email address. I'd have a look myself but it's all a bit beyond me :? Sol

07-10-07, 09:33 PM	#19 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Super Murderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 10,626 Thanks: 3 Thanked 53 Times in 34 Posts	Re: key*****.bin editor Maybe someone has uploaded it to a free file host? You could post a dead link to that if you could find one. __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

07-10-07, 10:11 PM	#20 (permalink)
solunauk Look into my eyes ... Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: South West UK Posts: 313 Thanks: 3 Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts	Re: key*****.bin editor Ok, it's on this page _h**p://www.sat-ulc.com/ulc/jgs_db.php?action=showkat&katid=25&sid=&page=2 about halfway down - look for the posting date 16/4/07. Also there's another likely candidate dated 12/5/07 on the same page.