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gremlin · 06-09-07, 11:56 PM

Hi folks

I have a matrix revolutions and reloaded card, and also a laptop with pcmcia ports

Is there anything that I can do with this to have a bit of fun with?

If I bought some extra bits would this open options up for me?

Thanks

Grem

nanochickin · 07-09-07, 05:47 AM

To be honest mate theres very little you can open with a Matrix series cam nowadays

I think you can only open D+ & Cabo with them now, maybe Polsat aswell

Nano

BGonaSTICK · 07-09-07, 10:58 AM

I don't think they will even do that, but I might be wrong.

nanochickin · 07-09-07, 04:48 PM

New MRB312 file out today in the usual places that does D+,Cabo & Polsat

Nano

bigtee · 07-09-07, 06:11 PM

Nano

The Matrix Reloaded ---- do you just enter keys or do you have to programme it?

Would you believe that I bought one off ebay some months ago for about £10 (I think) with the intention of just using it as a second card reader on one of my receivers. 8)

nanochickin · 07-09-07, 06:22 PM

I've no idea Bigtee, i don't use cams

Don't need them with a Dreambox

I think you have to use a CAS3 programmer or something like that, but don't quote me on it

I'm guessing Mikha might be able to help you out on this one mate :?

Nano

bigtee · 07-09-07, 06:30 PM

Thanks Nano

I was more curious than anything; I actually only bought the CAM as a second card reader because in my other base we sometimes have two subscriptions and saw a £10 MR as a cheap way of avoiding constant insertion and err withdrawal (ooh argh and all that

).

Mickha · 07-09-07, 07:39 PM

The older, original, matrix cams could be updated manually, they were the first super cam, as they could do everything, and we still use some of the tools today, like the matrix key converter.
But time moved on, the providers started fighting back, with more powerful encryptions, and new breeds, of the cam, were released, the Reborn, Reloaded and Revolution.
At about the same time the Dragon was released and that simply blew away all competition, so official support for these new cams seemed to stop.
Now the only support for the matrix cams are from fellow enthusiasts.
I never had a Matrix, I originally went for the magic cam and that fulfilled my needs until the dragon and diablo were released, so I can't tell you if you can still manually update the keys.
But it should be easy to find out, go into the cams menu and see what is there, if you have an option of imputting 3 numbers, Dec keys, then it must still be possible.
If you do discover anything please report back, as no doubt the few other owners, that still use this cam, will be interested.

BGonaSTICK · 07-09-07, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nanochickin

New MRB312 file out today in the usual places that does D+,Cabo & Polsat

Nano

OK, that's good to know!

bigtee · 07-09-07, 11:34 PM

Mickha,

Just for info; maybe tomorrow I will actually try to change keys e.g. when D+ is down on the TM.

1st Menu as follows:

Angelfire

1. Card Information
2. Setup
3. Information

Pressed 2 to go into Setup, then:

1. Edit Cas Key
2. Change Nagra Boxkey
3. Upgrade Firmware
5. Set Default Key

Pressed 1 to edit Cas Key

gives various encryption systems via 1-4, seca, irde*o, Nagra

Pressed Nagra; get IDs 2301, 4901, 1911

Pressed 2301 for fun

Seems to be old Hex (rather than Dec) keys.

Trust you make some sense of this. 8)

06-09-07, 11:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
gremlin Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Fun with Matrix??? Hi folks I have a matrix revolutions and reloaded card, and also a laptop with pcmcia ports Is there anything that I can do with this to have a bit of fun with? If I bought some extra bits would this open options up for me? Thanks Grem

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nanochickin Satellite Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In the deepest darkest part of the Black Country Posts: 3,433 Thanks: 14 Thanked 114 Times in 104 Posts	Re: Fun with Matrix??? To be honest mate theres very little you can open with a Matrix series cam nowadays I think you can only open D+ & Cabo with them now, maybe Polsat aswell Nano __________________

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BGonaSTICK Super Murderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 10,627 Thanks: 3 Thanked 57 Times in 34 Posts	Re: Fun with Matrix??? I don't think they will even do that, but I might be wrong. __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

07-09-07, 04:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
nanochickin Satellite Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In the deepest darkest part of the Black Country Posts: 3,433 Thanks: 14 Thanked 114 Times in 104 Posts	Re: Fun with Matrix??? New MRB312 file out today in the usual places that does D+,Cabo & Polsat Nano __________________

07-09-07, 06:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
bigtee Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 448 Thanks: 7 Thanked 37 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Fun with Matrix??? Nano The Matrix Reloaded ---- do you just enter keys or do you have to programme it? Would you believe that I bought one off ebay some months ago for about £10 (I think) with the intention of just using it as a second card reader on one of my receivers. 8) __________________ Raven 90 multi lnb 1w, 7, 9, 13, 16, 19 & 28e; 1m Orbital on SG 2100 5e-34w; TM1500s, Fortec 5400, Phoenix Apollo & Kathrein (analogue) Receivers


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07-09-07, 06:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
nanochickin Satellite Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In the deepest darkest part of the Black Country Posts: 3,433 Thanks: 14 Thanked 114 Times in 104 Posts	Re: Fun with Matrix??? I've no idea Bigtee, i don't use cams Don't need them with a Dreambox I think you have to use a CAS3 programmer or something like that, but don't quote me on it I'm guessing Mikha might be able to help you out on this one mate :? Nano __________________

07-09-07, 06:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
bigtee Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 448 Thanks: 7 Thanked 37 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Fun with Matrix??? Thanks Nano I was more curious than anything; I actually only bought the CAM as a second card reader because in my other base we sometimes have two subscriptions and saw a £10 MR as a cheap way of avoiding constant insertion and err withdrawal (ooh argh and all that ). __________________ Raven 90 multi lnb 1w, 7, 9, 13, 16, 19 & 28e; 1m Orbital on SG 2100 5e-34w; TM1500s, Fortec 5400, Phoenix Apollo & Kathrein (analogue) Receivers

07-09-07, 07:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
Mickha Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,467 Thanks: 5 Thanked 179 Times in 157 Posts	Re: Fun with Matrix??? The older, original, matrix cams could be updated manually, they were the first super cam, as they could do everything, and we still use some of the tools today, like the matrix key converter. But time moved on, the providers started fighting back, with more powerful encryptions, and new breeds, of the cam, were released, the Reborn, Reloaded and Revolution. At about the same time the Dragon was released and that simply blew away all competition, so official support for these new cams seemed to stop. Now the only support for the matrix cams are from fellow enthusiasts. I never had a Matrix, I originally went for the magic cam and that fulfilled my needs until the dragon and diablo were released, so I can't tell you if you can still manually update the keys. But it should be easy to find out, go into the cams menu and see what is there, if you have an option of imputting 3 numbers, Dec keys, then it must still be possible. If you do discover anything please report back, as no doubt the few other owners, that still use this cam, will be interested.

07-09-07, 11:34 PM	#10 (permalink)
bigtee Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 448 Thanks: 7 Thanked 37 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Fun with Matrix??? Mickha, Just for info; maybe tomorrow I will actually try to change keys e.g. when D+ is down on the TM. 1st Menu as follows: Angelfire 1. Card Information 2. Setup 3. Information Pressed 2 to go into Setup, then: 1. Edit Cas Key 2. Change Nagra Boxkey 3. Upgrade Firmware 5. Set Default Key Pressed 1 to edit Cas Key gives various encryption systems via 1-4, seca, irde*o, Nagra Pressed Nagra; get IDs 2301, 4901, 1911 Pressed 2301 for fun Seems to be old Hex (rather than Dec) keys. Trust you make some sense of this. 8) __________________ Raven 90 multi lnb 1w, 7, 9, 13, 16, 19 & 28e; 1m Orbital on SG 2100 5e-34w; TM1500s, Fortec 5400, Phoenix Apollo & Kathrein (analogue) Receivers