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Old 10-09-07, 12:54 AM   #11 (permalink)
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It's difficult to know what sort of improvement you'll get, because we don't know what dish you have now.

Your motor will probably take a similar-sized dish to a DiSEqC motor and no more. 1m is probably as big as you should go on it, maybe a tad more.

All the alternate dishes mentioned so far are good. The Geotracks are sometimes tricky to fit dishes to (if it looks like the one wod has posted), as they have an unusual bend in the motor output shaft, so be careful of that.

I've seen people have to attach all sorts of ugly plates, 'U' bends etc. to them to get dishes to fit.

Can you post a picture of your current setup? Just attach it to this thread.

On your other point, the dish doesn't need to turn fully 90 degrees. Firstly, 60E/W is about your lot for tracking the satellite arc in the UK, plus your dish actually twists and 'leans over' as it traverses the arc, and you may be surprised how little room you actually need. I'd suggest trying the brackets and whatnot that you have before changing it all.

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Old 10-09-07, 09:01 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I have found some destructions &Lenson Heath gets a mention, so maybe the dish is a Lenson 80cm.
Wod The motor is similar to the one shown but without the upright arm. The arm is rectangular section & looks to be at right angle to knurled knob that has a pointer to the degree scale. The arm looks to be 15-20cms long with an upright section that has an elongated hole to receive bolt from back of dish fixing plate to adjust the elevation angle.
STICK The Gilbertini looks a good bet as the existing dish (Lenson) has 4 bolts to fix to backplate & looks similar fixing to Gilbertini, maybe some redrilling holes in dish or backplate.I will need some instruction as to how to attach photos.
The orientation of the house dictates that the dish is at 90 degrees to house wall when pointing at approx 5-10w. It is clear to the East. If there is anything to 'catch' further west than 5 - 10w I may resite the dish nearer to the gable so that it can 'swing' further round and clear neighbours roof - will ponder!
I am favouring a 1.0m Gilbertini, is there anything to be gained with a 1.1- 1.2, will I pull in anything extra? I don't know as the extra couple of hundred for C.M. would get me anything extra.
I may want to try for feeds, so i need to bear this in mind

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Old 10-09-07, 09:16 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Default Re: need bigger/ better dish

well feeds tend to be also on 12.5w up to about 27west depending on what your after football, nascar racing etc

for ease of installing the gibertini 1m would be the best option as if it has to go high up then i wouldn't risk the andrews dish unless its mounted very solid to the wall

a gibertini 1metre dish on some 18inch t&ks (depending on clearance from wall needed) and a diseqc 1.2 h2h motor or polar mount + 36volt motor would be ideal and not much expensive

good that east view is clear as if you like football then fox turk on 33east is a good bet for sat games
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Yeah, I like wod's plan.

See how you like it and if you're likely to get really serious. You can upgrade at any time. The 1m Gibby will do plenty to start with.
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Think I'll stay out of this as It'll only cost him more money :roflmao:


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I've found it's a bottomless pit whichever way you approach it :
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I 'was' going to say.... 24" T&K's and a 24" actuator then all he'd need when he gets the 125cm (which he will) ,
is the dish and the bigger polar mount.
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Old 11-09-07, 02:04 AM   #18 (permalink)
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wod 33e is my holy grail atm. Football is my passion only a close second to the old English game. I think M/boro have been on Fox Turk every game so far,7as far ahead as LJs shows.Football feeds i would be interested in ( Stanley Cassidy
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The Gilbertini will be quikest & easiest IMO.The bottom of the dish will still be approx windowcill height on upstairs, just needs moving closer to gable so dish clears the wall
What would i gain by opting for CM. & spending extra £200 ?
STICK. I have been likely to be serious for several years. I have had to be very patient as my neighbour had an enormous tree blocking all sats even when no leaves on the trees.
My plan was to purchase an SL 65. to practise on & see what the dish would pull in, then progress to a DM800., this was around the time of your first post re DM8000.reading posts i thought it might be too ambitious for me as i am a total novice & no experience of Linux.
Price does not deter me as i look at things long term i.e. someting costs £500 it lasts 10 years -£50/year less than £1/week enough said.
Lancelot. For the moment i think 1.0m Gilbertini is quikest & easiest solution, but i would rather know which is the ultimate to strive for.
What extra could i expext/ hope to pull in from a 110 or 125cm as opposed to 100cm dish. Are there any issues with wall mounting a 125cm dish?
What is the difference between a motor & an actuator? Would i need inclined orbit?
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I had a 1mtr lenson heath type up for close to 10yrs and it served my extremely well over that period, but with the 125cm I pull in things that are just not there with the 100cm dish ( if you are after the weak stuff of feedhunting then you will move up eventually).

As for wall mounting, this 125cm has been up for a year and a half on a 36V H to H on 24" T&K's without any problem at all.

Channelmaster / Andrew dishes are very good, but so are the Gibertini's and I've yet to see something pulled in with a Channelmaster 1.2 that I couldn't get with the Gibbi. Plus they are lighter and less expensive.



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Well, you're in for a lot of fun whichever route you go.

You'll probably find the 1m Gibertini easier to set up as a novice, and it won't disappoint.

I've wanted the Gibertini 1.25m for a long time, but I just can't quite work it to the top of my list of things to spend my pocket money on.
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