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nanochickin · 08-10-07, 10:38 PM

It was always popular beleif that if it was brown it was just ordinary coax

Got some here that states otherwise

Nano

imported_Sean · 09-10-07, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbo71

or WF100, it's like CT100 but it has a foam dielectric rather than an air-space one.

But perfomance wise they are apparently identical.

Yeah, I think the 80cm is a good idea for the reason Nano has said. Although it might be best to stick with a single LNB to start with, and upgrade to a monoblock later, when you understand everything a bit more.

Guys, I have no idea what a single lnb is compared to a monoblock?
Otherwise I am starting to understand a little bit more.
If i buy a receiver with lots of slots I can expand with decoder cards. Okay one slot!
Also I have a good hiding place for a dish so may as well go for the bigger one as long as it is giving more content and better signal performance.
Can you split a satellite signal at the dish with a UHF freeveiw ariel? So only one coax is used???? :?I suppose the impedances are all wrong for the CT100.

robbo71 · 09-10-07, 09:32 AM

Hi again Sean,

A monoblock is just a way of conveniently placing effectively two LNBs on one dish, so that you can pick up two satellites without the need to move the dish.

For example a 6 degree monoblock can be set up for Astra1 (19.2E) and Hotbird (13E) because they are 6 degrees apart ( well almost enough

)

Example monoblock:-
http://www.sateuropa.co.uk/product_o...id=1&subcat=50
Example ordinary LNB:-
http://www.sateuropa.co.uk/product_o...id=1&subcat=50

Yes I think that you can combine the Tv aerial output with the satellite signal.
It's a diplexer I think you need, do a google, if no-one gives you a better answer.

Although I think it's better to run two cables, unless there is a real problem with this, as the additional connections and components will increase the attenuation in the Satellite lead unecessarily.

The impedance of ordinary (not necessarily brown, but often is

) Tv Coax is the same as satellite c@ble, i.e 75 ohm. In fact satellite c@ble can be used for ordinary UHF, but no vice versa.

and if you want a card and CAM slot the TM1500CI+ super is probably your best bet.

The 'CI' means that it can take a CAM (for a certain or a number of encryption types). A provider card would then be slotted into the CAM (Conditional Access Module).

The Tm1500CI+ also has a card slot with the CAM embedded into the receiver for 'conax' encryption.

Robbo

imported_Sean · 09-10-07, 10:20 AM

Thanks Robbo that all makes sense now, all I need to do is spend some time trawling through hotbird to see if there is any decent programming

While I have your expertise here is Sky a completely different deal? I guess Murdoch has chains on everything, or can you pick it up this way as well?

BGonaSTICK · 09-10-07, 10:43 AM

Sky is nailed down good and proper. Loads of FTA stuff on that satellite cluster though!

The TM1500CI+ also does Viaccess right out of the box too.

Never buy brown coax. It looks cheap even if it isn't :clap: :roflmao:

wod · 09-10-07, 08:36 PM

make sure you get a receiver with a cam slot in case you ever want to get canal digital etc

flashgordon1952 · 21-03-08, 12:22 PM

importedsean ! I hope this experience of being conned by a retailer ! does not make yu think there are many in the satellite retail business are bad. I am shure they was a one off. And will never hppen again. But its always good to be armed with some knowledge especially from a forum such as this. The moderators do a great job,considering they do not get paid for giving help and advice. Well done to the forum !

08-10-07, 10:38 PM	#11 (permalink)
nanochickin Satellite Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a house Posts: 3,287 Thanks: 14 Thanked 96 Times in 88 Posts	Re: Astra 1 in London area. It was always popular beleif that if it was brown it was just ordinary coax Got some here that states otherwise Nano __________________

09-10-07, 09:32 AM	#13 (permalink)
robbo71 Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kent Posts: 4,569 Thanks: 21 Thanked 392 Times in 380 Posts	Re: Astra 1 in London area. Hi again Sean, A monoblock is just a way of conveniently placing effectively two LNBs on one dish, so that you can pick up two satellites without the need to move the dish. For example a 6 degree monoblock can be set up for Astra1 (19.2E) and Hotbird (13E) because they are 6 degrees apart ( well almost enough ) Example monoblock:- http://www.sateuropa.co.uk/product_o...id=1&subcat=50 Example ordinary LNB:- http://www.sateuropa.co.uk/product_o...id=1&subcat=50 Yes I think that you can combine the Tv aerial output with the satellite signal. It's a diplexer I think you need, do a google, if no-one gives you a better answer. Although I think it's better to run two cables, unless there is a real problem with this, as the additional connections and components will increase the attenuation in the Satellite lead unecessarily. The impedance of ordinary (not necessarily brown, but often is ) Tv Coax is the same as satellite c@ble, i.e 75 ohm. In fact satellite c@ble can be used for ordinary UHF, but no vice versa. and if you want a card and CAM slot the TM1500CI+ super is probably your best bet. The 'CI' means that it can take a CAM (for a certain or a number of encryption types). A provider card would then be slotted into the CAM (Conditional Access Module). The Tm1500CI+ also has a card slot with the CAM embedded into the receiver for 'conax' encryption. Robbo __________________ كيبل اعضاء البلهاء TM6800,TM1000D.Triax TD110.STABHH-90 motor. DigitAlb movie package. Virgin Media Cable TV, Phone & Broadband subs.

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imported_Sean Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Astra 1 in London area. Thanks Robbo that all makes sense now, all I need to do is spend some time trawling through hotbird to see if there is any decent programming While I have your expertise here is Sky a completely different deal? I guess Murdoch has chains on everything, or can you pick it up this way as well?

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BGonaSTICK Super Murderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 10,624 Thanks: 3 Thanked 51 Times in 34 Posts	Re: Astra 1 in London area. Sky is nailed down good and proper. Loads of FTA stuff on that satellite cluster though! The TM1500CI+ also does Viaccess right out of the box too. Never buy brown coax. It looks cheap even if it isn't :clap: :roflmao: __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

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21-03-08, 12:22 PM	#17 (permalink)
flashgordon1952 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 123 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Astra 1 in London area. importedsean ! I hope this experience of being conned by a retailer ! does not make yu think there are many in the satellite retail business are bad. I am shure they was a one off. And will never hppen again. But its always good to be armed with some knowledge especially from a forum such as this. The moderators do a great job,considering they do not get paid for giving help and advice. Well done to the forum !