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ltmltm · 10-10-07, 05:02 AM

in between working out how to bring down the world economy, wether or not where in the matrix and pikachu discussion.

me and a few mates where wondering why the freesat consortium won't be banging on eutelsat's door for them to move one of the steerables so it has a tighter UK footprint
just wondering as everyone seems to be puzzled as to what ch4 and the like are going to do when 2D is full

can anyone see any flaws in this?

nanochickin · 10-10-07, 06:47 PM

The biggest Flaw is in your argument is basically financial cost

I doubt very much whether Eutelsat would oblige Freesat by adjusting one of the steerables to a tighter UK beam as financially it wouldn't make any sense as its unlikely that freesat would require that much transponder space to justify moving it to a tighter beam as most of the stuff set for freesat is already broadcast off 2D :?

If it comes to it and 2D does fill to capacity CH4 and the like will probably just get shoved onto one of the other Astra 2 Birds or over to Eurobird 1 or stuff will get moved around to other birds to make room for it on 2D

Nano

BGonaSTICK · 10-10-07, 08:52 PM

I find the whole thing rather odd. Why is it that only the UK needs to have such a tight beam - such that no other bu99er can get it?!?!?

Maybe even our expats are being shafted by the Great European Dream? Is this a ploy to keep a few natives at home?

OK, I know that's not strictly true, but it is kind of true... at least in my warped world

madrat · 10-10-07, 10:28 PM

I think ts something to do with our archaic licencing laws, same as our stoneage decency laws, thats why you cant legally broadcast porn in this country without a strategical placed pot plant :

The big wigs are afraid if we see sex we will all run out and have a mass orgy in the street,

not with my neighbours

Why we are sort of on this subject, why on earth do do ITV 3 + 1 sometimes say they cant broadcast what was on ITV 3 an hour earlier. :?

nanochickin · 11-10-07, 12:46 AM

Could it be because were ruled by a bunch of F#**wits

Yes thats definately got to be the reason why i can't go shopping after 4pm on a Sunday unless i go to the local corner shop and get totally ripped off

>

Nano

Jimdefruit · 11-10-07, 11:40 AM

Things are getting better. I remember when the very rare shop that opened on a Sunday morning could sell a loaf of bread but could not sell a bag of flour in case you attempted to do some baking.

BGonaSTICK · 11-10-07, 12:34 PM

I think all shops should be forced to shut on a Sunday to ensure that shop workers get at least one day a week off. The greedy supermarkets are exploiting some of their staff to the extent that they are taking the ****, frankly.

That's got nothing to do with it being a 'religious' day, but it should most certainly be a day of rest. The British population work longer hours than anyone in Europe, and they need some protection IMO.

Nobody died through having to buy flour and booze on a Saturday.

I have no idea what this has to do with Astra 2D, but hey

madrat · 02-11-07, 02:26 PM

what about astra 2C, whats she going to be used for.

Analoguesat · 02-11-07, 02:45 PM

More channels & some HDTV.

Jimdefruit · 02-11-07, 08:53 PM

I would have thought channel 4 etc would be delighted to get as wide a beam as possible because it would give then a lot of advertising cred.

10-10-07, 05:02 AM	#1 (permalink)
ltmltm Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 134 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	if 2D is so crippled for capacity in between working out how to bring down the world economy, wether or not where in the matrix and pikachu discussion. me and a few mates where wondering why the freesat consortium won't be banging on eutelsat's door for them to move one of the steerables so it has a tighter UK footprint just wondering as everyone seems to be puzzled as to what ch4 and the like are going to do when 2D is full can anyone see any flaws in this? __________________ 65cm AWESOME Dish, Titanium lnb, Echolink EL-777 30w to 42e with my hand as a motor

10-10-07, 06:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
nanochickin Retired Mod & Sat Guru Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Wolverhampton Posts: 3,825 Thanks: 46 Thanked 338 Times in 270 Posts	Re: if 2D is so crippled for capacity The biggest Flaw is in your argument is basically financial cost I doubt very much whether Eutelsat would oblige Freesat by adjusting one of the steerables to a tighter UK beam as financially it wouldn't make any sense as its unlikely that freesat would require that much transponder space to justify moving it to a tighter beam as most of the stuff set for freesat is already broadcast off 2D :? If it comes to it and 2D does fill to capacity CH4 and the like will probably just get shoved onto one of the other Astra 2 Birds or over to Eurobird 1 or stuff will get moved around to other birds to make room for it on 2D Nano __________________ Sanity is nothing more than an excuse to be boring

10-10-07, 08:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
BGonaSTICK Dodgy Geezer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 9,718 Thanks: 3 Thanked 163 Times in 57 Posts	Re: if 2D is so crippled for capacity I find the whole thing rather odd. Why is it that only the UK needs to have such a tight beam - such that no other bu99er can get it?!?!? Maybe even our expats are being shafted by the Great European Dream? Is this a ploy to keep a few natives at home? OK, I know that's not strictly true, but it is kind of true... at least in my warped world __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

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madrat Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 2,209 Thanks: 11 Thanked 71 Times in 61 Posts	Re: if 2D is so crippled for capacity I think ts something to do with our archaic licencing laws, same as our stoneage decency laws, thats why you cant legally broadcast porn in this country without a strategical placed pot plant : The big wigs are afraid if we see sex we will all run out and have a mass orgy in the street, not with my neighbours Why we are sort of on this subject, why on earth do do ITV 3 + 1 sometimes say they cant broadcast what was on ITV 3 an hour earlier. :? __________________ *VIRGIN, STOP SENDING ME JUNK MAIL.*

11-10-07, 12:46 AM	#5 (permalink)
nanochickin Retired Mod & Sat Guru Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Wolverhampton Posts: 3,825 Thanks: 46 Thanked 338 Times in 270 Posts	Re: if 2D is so crippled for capacity Could it be because were ruled by a bunch of F#wits Yes thats definately got to be the reason why i can't go shopping after 4pm on a Sunday unless i go to the local corner shop and get totally ripped off > > > > > > Nano __________________ Sanity is nothing more than an excuse to be boring** Last edited by nanochickin; 02-11-07 at 10:26 PM.

11-10-07, 11:40 AM	#6 (permalink)
Jimdefruit Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,858 Thanks: 20 Thanked 221 Times in 187 Posts	Re: if 2D is so crippled for capacity Things are getting better. I remember when the very rare shop that opened on a Sunday morning could sell a loaf of bread but could not sell a bag of flour in case you attempted to do some baking. __________________ Dreambox 800 HD; Dreambox 7000s + VBox + Channel Master 1.2 with 36v actuator CM120 feedhorn and Invacom .3 LNB Skystar 2 PCI card with links to my Dreamboxes If you like what you see here, tell your friends.

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BGonaSTICK Dodgy Geezer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 9,718 Thanks: 3 Thanked 163 Times in 57 Posts	Re: if 2D is so crippled for capacity I think all shops should be forced to shut on a Sunday to ensure that shop workers get at least one day a week off. The greedy supermarkets are exploiting some of their staff to the extent that they are taking the ****, frankly. That's got nothing to do with it being a 'religious' day, but it should most certainly be a day of rest. The British population work longer hours than anyone in Europe, and they need some protection IMO. Nobody died through having to buy flour and booze on a Saturday. I have no idea what this has to do with Astra 2D, but hey __________________ Dreambox 7000, Skystar2 PCI, Skystar USB, Fibo 90cm on Moteck SG2100, Triax TD110 multi-LNB. Sky + ART cards. 45.0°E - 58.0°W

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madrat Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 2,209 Thanks: 11 Thanked 71 Times in 61 Posts	Re: if 2D is so crippled for capacity what about astra 2C, whats she going to be used for. __________________ *VIRGIN, STOP SENDING ME JUNK MAIL.*

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02-11-07, 08:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jimdefruit Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,858 Thanks: 20 Thanked 221 Times in 187 Posts	Re: if 2D is so crippled for capacity I would have thought channel 4 etc would be delighted to get as wide a beam as possible because it would give then a lot of advertising cred. __________________ Dreambox 800 HD; Dreambox 7000s + VBox + Channel Master 1.2 with 36v actuator CM120 feedhorn and Invacom .3 LNB Skystar 2 PCI card with links to my Dreamboxes If you like what you see here, tell your friends.