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Sandymount · 13-10-08, 12:34 PM

If I might jump in here...

I have a very similar setup - intended for Vista Ultimate 32bit when completed.

I am currently currently testing the setup using a Windows XP 32bit machine.

While, like you, I have two FloppyDTVs and two ZetaCAM Blues, I am simply trying to replace the external STBs with cards inside my system so that I won't have the issues with changing channels and missing channels (that require the STBs to be rebooted) using the IR relay setup with MCE.

Ehn-Tee-Elle (

) in Dublin (Ireland) use an exclusive model of Pace modem (similar to a box used for DVB-S in Germany, I think) (h**p://www.pace.com/corporate/products/productDetails.asp?nav=products&productID=DCABLE-DC221KN).

I installed the FloppyDTV with no problems (at different times selecting BDA or MCE). As you discovered, Gaz, when installing as BDA the FireDTV will scan channels when you specify that the service is cable. However, if you selected MCE install, the card must be treated as Terrestrial when scanning for channels.

In Dublin, Euronews is the only channel that is not encrypted. That channel works fine, as does the EPG, when using FireDTV Viewer. The EPG shows a little 'key' icon next to all other channels scanned and when they are selected to view, you see nothing but a black screen in the FireDTV Viewer.

The ZetaCAMs came (I assume) pre-loaded with Joker 0.79. When I insert the ZetaCAMs into the FloppyDTVs, they are detected fine and I can even use the 'Common Interface' tool (on the FloppyDTV CDROM) to view the BoxKey pre-set onto the ZetaCAM Blue. From this screen you can change the BoxKey by entering each byte of the BoxKey one octet ('word', two bytes) at a time in decimal format - not Hex. If you put in any number that doesn't match a legit sequence, the tool quits out. I wonder, could they have made it any more oblique.

I have - after a large amount of frustration, which eventually showed me how simple it was to find - finally figured out how to obtain the IRD of my Irish STBs but, after all that, they are not included on the BoxKey database (probably because the box is so localised to this country).

I do not want any extra channels - I only want the channels I am already paying for to be fully managed by Windows MCE (which I have grown to love and blows the water out from under the rubbish EPG that comes from the provider).

I have three legit STBs, three IRDs, the provider's symbol rate, the provider's network ID, the provider's channel frequencies, two of the provider's public keys, three of the provider's Nagra cards (ROM version 11 Rev BOD and paired to their STBs, I think), two FloppyDTVs, two ZetaCAM Blues and a CAS3+.

Given that I am able to scan and find Euronews and watch it (albeit for as long as I can stand to!), to view the other channels that are all encrypted, are the following two questions the right questions to be asking? And what are their answers?

1) If I had the BoxKey for each STB, I could then (am I right here?) program the BoxKeys into my ZetaCAM Blues, insert the legit Nagra cards (for their corresponding BoxKey) and - POP! - all my channels would be unencrypted.

2) If my IRD is not in the BoxKey database, do I have to get one of those horrible LED SIMM things to get the BoxKey out of the STBs?

13-10-08, 12:34 PM	#24 (permalink)
Sandymount Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: A bit stuck ! If I might jump in here... I have a very similar setup - intended for Vista Ultimate 32bit when completed. I am currently currently testing the setup using a Windows XP 32bit machine. While, like you, I have two FloppyDTVs and two ZetaCAM Blues, I am simply trying to replace the external STBs with cards inside my system so that I won't have the issues with changing channels and missing channels (that require the STBs to be rebooted) using the IR relay setup with MCE. Ehn-Tee-Elle () in Dublin (Ireland) use an exclusive model of Pace modem (similar to a box used for DVB-S in Germany, I think) (h**p://www.pace.com/corporate/products/productDetails.asp?nav=products&productID=DCABLE-DC221KN). I installed the FloppyDTV with no problems (at different times selecting BDA or MCE). As you discovered, Gaz, when installing as BDA the FireDTV will scan channels when you specify that the service is cable. However, if you selected MCE install, the card must be treated as Terrestrial when scanning for channels. In Dublin, Euronews is the only channel that is not encrypted. That channel works fine, as does the EPG, when using FireDTV Viewer. The EPG shows a little 'key' icon next to all other channels scanned and when they are selected to view, you see nothing but a black screen in the FireDTV Viewer. The ZetaCAMs came (I assume) pre-loaded with Joker 0.79. When I insert the ZetaCAMs into the FloppyDTVs, they are detected fine and I can even use the 'Common Interface' tool (on the FloppyDTV CDROM) to view the BoxKey pre-set onto the ZetaCAM Blue. From this screen you can change the BoxKey by entering each byte of the BoxKey one octet ('word', two bytes) at a time in decimal format - not Hex. If you put in any number that doesn't match a legit sequence, the tool quits out. I wonder, could they have made it any more oblique. I have - after a large amount of frustration, which eventually showed me how simple it was to find - finally figured out how to obtain the IRD of my Irish STBs but, after all that, they are not included on the BoxKey database (probably because the box is so localised to this country). I do not want any extra channels - I only want the channels I am already paying for to be fully managed by Windows MCE (which I have grown to love and blows the water out from under the rubbish EPG that comes from the provider). I have three legit STBs, three IRDs, the provider's symbol rate, the provider's network ID, the provider's channel frequencies, two of the provider's public keys, three of the provider's Nagra cards (ROM version 11 Rev BOD and paired to their STBs, I think), two FloppyDTVs, two ZetaCAM Blues and a CAS3+. Given that I am able to scan and find Euronews and watch it (albeit for as long as I can stand to!), to view the other channels that are all encrypted, are the following two questions the right questions to be asking? And what are their answers? 1) If I had the BoxKey for each STB, I could then (am I right here?) program the BoxKeys into my ZetaCAM Blues, insert the legit Nagra cards (for their corresponding BoxKey) and - POP! - all my channels would be unencrypted. 2) If my IRD is not in the BoxKey database, do I have to get one of those horrible LED SIMM things to get the BoxKey out of the STBs?