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Miklos · 26-02-08, 04:20 PM

I seem to remember in a recent issue of What Satellite that Channel 4 and ITV HD were coming to FTA.
Is there any more news on that?

Also, any plans for E4 and Ch5 to come on FTA?

I mean we have Film 4 and Film 4+1 so why not Channel 4????

lincsat · 26-02-08, 05:04 PM

AIUI, the Channel4 family are contracted to NDS to the late Spring/Early Summer. I believe that 5 are contracted until next year.

My understanding is that ITVHD will be FTA from launch.

Analoguesat · 26-02-08, 05:05 PM

Channel 4 and its siblings are tied into an encryption contract with Sky until around Q3 2008.

This was signed nearly 5 years ago, and the satellite scene has changed greatly since then but a contract is a contract and C4 was quite happy to sign it in 2003ish. Its widely expected the C4 family of channels will go fta once the contract expires (or they buy it out - no-one knows if this is possible apart from the lawyers for the 2 sides) Although this is not definite to happen - they might get an offer they cant refuse from Sky!

ITV 1 HD is expected to launch reasonably soon - presumably it will be a single generic channel rather than a full regional service due to bandwith restrictions.

C5 is tied into encryption contracts until mid 2009 so dont expect them anytime soon - see paragraph 1 about contracts......

Keep an eye on the foruum because as soon as there is any definite news about encryption changes someone will break it.

fintaneduffy · 01-03-08, 06:58 PM

is that this year the channel 4 contract ends with sky?

Robbo · 01-03-08, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fintaneduffy

is that this year the channel 4 contract ends with sky?

Yes, Q3 2008 according to Analoguesat.

kerrywez · 01-03-08, 10:13 PM

It has to be remembered that none of the channel five channels are what is known as FTA, they, as is channel 4, FTV (free to view). FTA means that there is no need of a card to view that channel so it if free to air, FTV, on the other hand, requires a card to be viewed.
I am not being a smart ar*e in telling you this, I am just explaining the difference in the two terminologies.

Very best regards Wez

flashgordon1952 · 03-03-08, 12:50 PM

as most of us know sky is chargeing £10 a month just for the few channels they have. (on top of the usual subscription.of £19/21 or whatever) i personally think sky should give a discount on the HD service if yu have the movies and sports channels. But the way Sky is doing things the HD service is completley seperate from the other services. Hopefully FREESAT is only a couple of months away. this may stop Sky chargeing for what is basically the same channels on HD excpt sky one . Offcourse no one knows when the FREESAT HD service will start. i reckon myslef they have to get it up and running before the olympics start later in the summer.

lincsat · 03-03-08, 12:56 PM

Freesat will be no competition to Sky, it won't affect Sky's pricing for anything. Why should they give a discount to watch Sports & Movies in HD?

You can already get a FTA HD box to use for the Olympics if you are so inclined - just like you could get one for the World Cup Soccer.

bigwegg · 25-04-08, 10:52 PM

I seem to be watching Channel 4 with no sound as Programme 8350 on my Comag sl35. However, this can only be view in the EPG mode. As soon as I go to put in full screen mode, it tells me it is scrambled.

Details:
Freq: 10731 V
Pid ? 21993
V A PCR 2359 2360 2358

Whateve that last line means

Analoguesat · 25-04-08, 11:03 PM

The sound was working ok a couple of days ago. Keep an eye on it.

26-02-08, 04:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
Miklos Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kingston Upon Hull Posts: 204 Thanks: 26 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Ch4, E4, Ch5 etc? I seem to remember in a recent issue of What Satellite that Channel 4 and ITV HD were coming to FTA. Is there any more news on that? Also, any plans for E4 and Ch5 to come on FTA? I mean we have Film 4 and Film 4+1 so why not Channel 4????

26-02-08, 05:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
lincsat Super-Dooper Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: In front of the PC Posts: 6,003 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2,580 Times in 667 Posts	Re: Ch4, E4, Ch5 etc? AIUI, the Channel4 family are contracted to NDS to the late Spring/Early Summer. I believe that 5 are contracted until next year. My understanding is that ITVHD will be FTA from launch. __________________ Blade7000 & DM800Pro/SE in Stock, Linux Sat boxes from £52.25, SkyboxF3 under £60. Kryptview £123.50 & SV6 under £72 with Members Discount - Lincsat's Nick-Nacks (Shop) Drivers Protest Union

26-02-08, 05:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
Analoguesat manic midlander retired mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 11,668 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1,339 Times in 990 Posts	Re: Ch4, E4, Ch5 etc? Channel 4 and its siblings are tied into an encryption contract with Sky until around Q3 2008. This was signed nearly 5 years ago, and the satellite scene has changed greatly since then but a contract is a contract and C4 was quite happy to sign it in 2003ish. Its widely expected the C4 family of channels will go fta once the contract expires (or they buy it out - no-one knows if this is possible apart from the lawyers for the 2 sides) Although this is not definite to happen - they might get an offer they cant refuse from Sky! ITV 1 HD is expected to launch reasonably soon - presumably it will be a single generic channel rather than a full regional service due to bandwith restrictions. C5 is tied into encryption contracts until mid 2009 so dont expect them anytime soon - see paragraph 1 about contracts...... Keep an eye on the foruum because as soon as there is any definite news about encryption changes someone will break it. __________________ Basic forum rules for both satellite & cable: no keys no patches no offering or asking for card shares Anyone pm'ing me for details of card sharing or anything to do with hacking cable will be banned immediately Analogue forever!!

01-03-08, 06:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
fintaneduffy Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 37 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Ch4, E4, Ch5 etc? is that this year the channel 4 contract ends with sky?

01-03-08, 10:13 PM	#6 (permalink)
kerrywez Grumpy Old Sat Man Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Co. Kerry, Ireland Posts: 2,471 Thanks: 2,973 Thanked 639 Times in 505 Posts	Re: Ch4, E4, Ch5 etc? It has to be remembered that none of the channel five channels are what is known as FTA, they, as is channel 4, FTV (free to view). FTA means that there is no need of a card to view that channel so it if free to air, FTV, on the other hand, requires a card to be viewed. I am not being a smart ar*e in telling you this, I am just explaining the difference in the two terminologies. Very best regards Wez __________________ Dreambox 7025, 250HDD, Dreambox 500s, 110 X 90Cm Hirschmann on Clarketech rotor, 1.2 Mtr. Channel Master. AZBox HD Running on E2. TM6900 super combo.

03-03-08, 12:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
flashgordon1952 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 120 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Ch4, E4, Ch5 etc? as most of us know sky is chargeing £10 a month just for the few channels they have. (on top of the usual subscription.of £19/21 or whatever) i personally think sky should give a discount on the HD service if yu have the movies and sports channels. But the way Sky is doing things the HD service is completley seperate from the other services. Hopefully FREESAT is only a couple of months away. this may stop Sky chargeing for what is basically the same channels on HD excpt sky one . Offcourse no one knows when the FREESAT HD service will start. i reckon myslef they have to get it up and running before the olympics start later in the summer.

03-03-08, 12:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
lincsat Super-Dooper Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: In front of the PC Posts: 6,003 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2,580 Times in 667 Posts	Re: Ch4, E4, Ch5 etc? Freesat will be no competition to Sky, it won't affect Sky's pricing for anything. Why should they give a discount to watch Sports & Movies in HD? You can already get a FTA HD box to use for the Olympics if you are so inclined - just like you could get one for the World Cup Soccer. __________________ Blade7000 & DM800Pro/SE in Stock, Linux Sat boxes from £52.25, SkyboxF3 under £60. Kryptview £123.50 & SV6 under £72 with Members Discount - Lincsat's Nick-Nacks (Shop) Drivers Protest Union

25-04-08, 10:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
bigwegg Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Ch4, E4, Ch5 etc? I seem to be watching Channel 4 with no sound as Programme 8350 on my Comag sl35. However, this can only be view in the EPG mode. As soon as I go to put in full screen mode, it tells me it is scrambled. Details: Freq: 10731 V Pid ? 21993 V A PCR 2359 2360 2358 Whateve that last line means __________________ '3' it's the magic number

25-04-08, 11:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
Analoguesat manic midlander retired mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 11,668 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1,339 Times in 990 Posts	Re: Ch4, E4, Ch5 etc? The sound was working ok a couple of days ago. Keep an eye on it. __________________ Basic forum rules for both satellite & cable: no keys no patches no offering or asking for card shares Anyone pm'ing me for details of card sharing or anything to do with hacking cable will be banned immediately Analogue forever!!