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clubfoot · 07-03-08, 04:44 PM

Hi,

I've just finished my second motorised install at my brother in laws house and im a bit puzzled.
Its picking up MBC on Badr 26e at about 70% quality with a 1m orbital on anglesey north wales. Ive looked at the mbc beam footprint and it should have no chance of pulling those channels in.

Could it be from another sat? any ideas? unless ive misunderstood the footprint.

Robbo · 07-03-08, 05:23 PM

Hi,
I don't know about over in Wales but I can get them on my 90cm dish down in kent, so it is not unreasonable that you would get them OK. So yes they must be the MBC channels on 26E

The only other satellite those channels are on is 7W, we are also way off the footprint for the MBC transponders for those, but I can get those too reasobaly well.

But in Wales 7W on a 1M dish would be more difficult.

Robbo

wod · 07-03-08, 06:08 PM

its strange the footprint of mbc on arabsat 26e as i have had them on a 90cm dish in west yorkshire with good signal quality until my dish got messed up.

also 7west is possible in wales with a 1.8m dish

Analoguesat · 07-03-08, 06:12 PM

The MBC beam seems to be a "figment of the imagination" much like the Astra 2D beam is. Probably more fiction than fact to appease the hollywood companies

clubfoot · 07-03-08, 07:43 PM

I only thought it was strange as i'm only a few miles away from him and I can't pick them up, time for a bit of tweaking over the weekend. I'm installing another one for a mate over the weekend, see if I can pick them up there. Some good stuff on there, albeit with arabic subs.

7&4w are dead in the water up here. Also nothing from astra 3a with a 1m dish.

By the way, just seen the forecast for monday, severe gales, first big test for my dish!!

rd100 · 08-03-08, 12:33 AM

In south wales for mbc a 1m ASC dish works ok but a 1.2m is needed to allow for rain fade,

Also a 1.8m is needed for eurobird 2 at 25.5east in SE Wales

Where i am in south east wales a 1.8m is ok for nilesat horizontals but in north wales you can just about receive them on a 2.4m and need a 3.7m to allow for rain fade but atlantic bird 4 at 7'w is easy received on a 1.2m

remlap · 08-03-08, 12:36 PM

MBC's never a problem on 26e.

It bucketing it down now and I've only lost about 5% quality way above locking level.

Robbo · 08-03-08, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by remlap

MBC's never a problem on 26e.

It bucketing it down now and I've only lost about 5% quality way above locking level.

What size/type of dish?

remlap · 08-03-08, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbo71

What size/type of dish?

105cm Gibertini.

rd100 · 08-03-08, 06:42 PM

Just to add to this when i was talking about MBC and said you need a 1.2m in SE wales to allow for rain fade i was on about MBC via nilesat 7'W

A high quality 79cm prodelin is more the enough for mbc via badr i have installed a few 79cm prodelins for Arabic people around my area for badr and the signal from bardr is blazing in

Quote:

Originally Posted by rd100

In south wales for mbc a 1m ASC dish works ok but a 1.2m is needed to allow for rain fade,

Also a 1.8m is needed for eurobird 2 at 25.5east in SE Wales

Where i am in south east wales a 1.8m is ok for nilesat horizontals but in north wales you can just about receive them on a 2.4m and need a 3.7m to allow for rain fade but atlantic bird 4 at 7'w is easy received on a 1.2m

07-03-08, 04:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
clubfoot Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North West Wales Posts: 84 Thanks: 0 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Badr MBC Hi, I've just finished my second motorised install at my brother in laws house and im a bit puzzled. Its picking up MBC on Badr 26e at about 70% quality with a 1m orbital on anglesey north wales. Ive looked at the mbc beam footprint and it should have no chance of pulling those channels in. Could it be from another sat? any ideas? unless ive misunderstood the footprint. __________________ TM5400CI+ USB - 1m Orbital - Moteck SG2100 -Inverto LNB - 20m Coax

07-03-08, 05:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
Robbo Satellite mad Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kent Posts: 9,374 Thanks: 97 Thanked 1,981 Times in 1,603 Posts	Re: Badr MBC Hi, I don't know about over in Wales but I can get them on my 90cm dish down in kent, so it is not unreasonable that you would get them OK. So yes they must be the MBC channels on 26E The only other satellite those channels are on is 7W, we are also way off the footprint for the MBC transponders for those, but I can get those too reasobaly well. But in Wales 7W on a 1M dish would be more difficult. Robbo __________________ القمر الصناعي هو أفضل TM600 linux,TM6800HD,TM5200,TM1000,TM2200 motor, Triax TD110 dish. Electronics Engineer and satellite installer.MBC Satellites

07-03-08, 06:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
wod Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,299 Thanks: 18 Thanked 93 Times in 82 Posts	Re: Badr MBC its strange the footprint of mbc on arabsat 26e as i have had them on a 90cm dish in west yorkshire with good signal quality until my dish got messed up. also 7west is possible in wales with a 1.8m dish

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Analoguesat manic midlander retired mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 11,668 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1,339 Times in 990 Posts	Re: Badr MBC The MBC beam seems to be a "figment of the imagination" much like the Astra 2D beam is. Probably more fiction than fact to appease the hollywood companies __________________ Basic forum rules for both satellite & cable: no keys no patches no offering or asking for card shares Anyone pm'ing me for details of card sharing or anything to do with hacking cable will be banned immediately Analogue forever!!

07-03-08, 07:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
clubfoot Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North West Wales Posts: 84 Thanks: 0 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Badr MBC I only thought it was strange as i'm only a few miles away from him and I can't pick them up, time for a bit of tweaking over the weekend. I'm installing another one for a mate over the weekend, see if I can pick them up there. Some good stuff on there, albeit with arabic subs. 7&4w are dead in the water up here. Also nothing from astra 3a with a 1m dish. By the way, just seen the forecast for monday, severe gales, first big test for my dish!! __________________ TM5400CI+ USB - 1m Orbital - Moteck SG2100 -Inverto LNB - 20m Coax Last edited by clubfoot; 07-03-08 at 07:49 PM.

08-03-08, 12:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
rd100 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 381 Thanks: 2 Thanked 26 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Badr MBC In south wales for mbc a 1m ASC dish works ok but a 1.2m is needed to allow for rain fade, Also a 1.8m is needed for eurobird 2 at 25.5east in SE Wales Where i am in south east wales a 1.8m is ok for nilesat horizontals but in north wales you can just about receive them on a 2.4m and need a 3.7m to allow for rain fade but atlantic bird 4 at 7'w is easy received on a 1.2m __________________ Prodelin 3.7m Prodelin 1.8m Andrew 1.2m , Vantage 221s ci Manhattan xt-f Arion HD, Orbit & showtime sub & AFN, Last edited by rd100; 08-03-08 at 12:36 AM.

08-03-08, 12:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
remlap Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: South Wales Posts: 831 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Badr MBC MBC's never a problem on 26e. It bucketing it down now and I've only lost about 5% quality way above locking level.

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