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rage99 · 31-03-08, 05:17 PM

Hi, on my old box it would allow me to scan channels with very low signal. On my dreambox i have signal but it's low and it wont let me scan until its locked.

How do i get around this ?

Jimdefruit · 31-03-08, 05:47 PM

Are you on a fixed dish?

The Dreambox searches through the transponders that are listed in satellites.xml file until it finds a reasonable signal and it locks. Once it locks it scans all transponders on that sat and enters them. If you cant get a lock on a satellite your dish must be mis-alligned or you may be scanning the wrong satellite transponder list.

robbo71 · 31-03-08, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rage99

Hi, on my old box it would allow me to scan channels with very low signal. On my dreambox i have signal but it's low and it wont let me scan until its locked.

How do i get around this ?

If your receiver can't get a lock on a transponder it won't be able to scan it.

Which satellite is the dish pointing at, and what size dish is it?

rage99 · 31-03-08, 06:59 PM

7west. One of the strong verticals. Only an 80cm motorised dish.

I know it's possible to receive certain TP's as i had them crystal clear before on me old box but with low signal.

robbo71 · 31-03-08, 07:20 PM

Which transponder?

Also the signal level is dependent on time of day, it is better late evening until the morning, but is worse during the day. Also your receiver may not be as sensitive as your previous one. Also dish alignment is critical.

Robbo

rage99 · 31-03-08, 07:23 PM

Im using a manual motor, i know i have it spot on cos on my other receiver i had signal on it.

This is the TP's...

11785 v

11823 v

11862 v

Only a few but one of them has Showtime on it.

robbo71 · 31-03-08, 07:29 PM

Yes, they are three of the strongest. Try it later on tonight after 9 or 10pm,

if you still can't get them it is probably down to your receiver not being as sensitive, if you are sure your dish is right.

You may need a bigger dish, not all receivers have the same sensitivity.

A bigger dish may get you the MBC channels as well.

rage99 · 31-03-08, 07:32 PM

Yeah ihave the 500+ which is meant to be increased Alps sensitivity !

kerrywez · 31-03-08, 10:50 PM

Hi rage,
I have a feeling that your dish must not be right on the satellite, if it were you should be getting a good enough signal to lock onto. There is not way round it, you need to get a fix on some transponder. Did you try to scan the satellite even though you have no got a lock, if you reckon that you have the dish pointed at 7W then it would be worth a try anyway? I am too far west and can't get a lock on 7W, not that I want to, I am sure if I had a fixed dish on it I would be able to get 7W.

Very best regards Wez

rage99 · 01-04-08, 10:19 AM

Success I managed to get around 3 transponders. One of which is showtime but can break up in wind.

Here are the stats....

SNR: 78% AGC: 77% BER: 5158

31-03-08, 05:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
rage99 Technology Forums Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 32 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Help Scanning on Dreambox 500+ Hi, on my old box it would allow me to scan channels with very low signal. On my dreambox i have signal but it's low and it wont let me scan until its locked. How do i get around this ?

31-03-08, 05:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jimdefruit Dreamy Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,575 Thanks: 10 Thanked 69 Times in 64 Posts	Re: Help Scanning on Dreambox 500+ Are you on a fixed dish? The Dreambox searches through the transponders that are listed in satellites.xml file until it finds a reasonable signal and it locks. Once it locks it scans all transponders on that sat and enters them. If you cant get a lock on a satellite your dish must be mis-alligned or you may be scanning the wrong satellite transponder list. __________________ Dreambox 7000s + VBox + Channel Master 1.2 with 36v actuator CM120 feedhorn and Invacom .3 LNB Skystar 2 PCI card with links to my Dreambox If you like what you see here, tell your friends.

31-03-08, 06:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
rage99 Technology Forums Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 32 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Help Scanning on Dreambox 500+ 7west. One of the strong verticals. Only an 80cm motorised dish. I know it's possible to receive certain TP's as i had them crystal clear before on me old box but with low signal.

31-03-08, 07:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
robbo71 Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kent Posts: 4,210 Thanks: 15 Thanked 342 Times in 331 Posts	Re: Help Scanning on Dreambox 500+ Which transponder? Also the signal level is dependent on time of day, it is better late evening until the morning, but is worse during the day. Also your receiver may not be as sensitive as your previous one. Also dish alignment is critical. Robbo __________________ كيبل اعضاء البلهاء TM1000D.Triax TD110.STABHH-90 motor. DigitAlb movie package. Virgin Media Cable TV, Phone & Broadband subs.

31-03-08, 07:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
rage99 Technology Forums Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 32 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Help Scanning on Dreambox 500+ Im using a manual motor, i know i have it spot on cos on my other receiver i had signal on it. This is the TP's... 11785 v 11823 v 11862 v Only a few but one of them has Showtime on it.


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31-03-08, 07:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
robbo71 Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kent Posts: 4,210 Thanks: 15 Thanked 342 Times in 331 Posts	Re: Help Scanning on Dreambox 500+ Yes, they are three of the strongest. Try it later on tonight after 9 or 10pm, if you still can't get them it is probably down to your receiver not being as sensitive, if you are sure your dish is right. You may need a bigger dish, not all receivers have the same sensitivity. A bigger dish may get you the MBC channels as well. __________________ كيبل اعضاء البلهاء TM1000D.Triax TD110.STABHH-90 motor. DigitAlb movie package. Virgin Media Cable TV, Phone & Broadband subs. Last edited by robbo71 : 31-03-08 at 07:32 PM.

31-03-08, 07:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
rage99 Technology Forums Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 32 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Help Scanning on Dreambox 500+ Yeah ihave the 500+ which is meant to be increased Alps sensitivity !

31-03-08, 10:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
kerrywez Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,309 Thanks: 240 Thanked 128 Times in 125 Posts	Re: Help Scanning on Dreambox 500+ Hi rage, I have a feeling that your dish must not be right on the satellite, if it were you should be getting a good enough signal to lock onto. There is not way round it, you need to get a fix on some transponder. Did you try to scan the satellite even though you have no got a lock, if you reckon that you have the dish pointed at 7W then it would be worth a try anyway? I am too far west and can't get a lock on 7W, not that I want to, I am sure if I had a fixed dish on it I would be able to get 7W. Very best regards Wez __________________ Dreambox 7025, 250HDD, Dreambox 500s, 110 X 90Cm Hirschmann on Clarketech rotor, 1.2 Mtr. Channel Master on ground mount and 18 Ins. Super Jack and Super Jack V-Box. Humax Foxsat Freesat HD box. Last edited by kerrywez : 31-03-08 at 10:51 PM. Reason: Typo

01-04-08, 10:19 AM	#10 (permalink)
rage99 Technology Forums Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 32 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Help Scanning on Dreambox 500+ Success I managed to get around 3 transponders. One of which is showtime but can break up in wind. Here are the stats.... SNR: 78% AGC: 77% BER: 5158

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