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lijl1971 · 01-04-08, 10:27 AM

Hi Everyone.

I am looking for a bit of advice and direction. I am currently playing with NewCS and a SoftCam for Linux called sasc-ng. The softcam can read nagra roms and use a softcam.keys file with the appropriate keys in to dectypt a cable stream. This all works very reliably, but I am also trying to play with the cardserver feature of sasc-ng. Essentially this feature allows it to talk to a card server (in my case NewCS) to perform the same function of decrypting the stream and rolling keys.

What I am trying to do with this setup is use my original smart card (unmodified if possible) to do the decryption rather than keep it all in software. Doing it all in software does make more sense in terms of practicality, but this is just an experiment to see if its possible. The only problem that I have come up against so far is that NewCS requires the boxkey for the legit card to be able to decrypt the stream. I am looking for the most practical way to get the boxkey without poking either the card or the STB (for obvious reasons). Using a different box would obviously defeat the purpose of what I am trying to do, which is use the legit card to decrypt the stream on a PC.

So... the question then is this; should I try to unloop the card? Will this potentially damage it. I understand that everything has a risk, but realistically, how likely am I to poke it? The alternative that I can see is jtagging the STB (DI4100N). Again, this is my actual STB and I don't particularly want to fook it up for obvious reasons. Please note that this is not your average funcard exercise where it is ideal to use another box. I simply want to find out the boxkey and that is all.

I searched the forum but couldn't find any recommendations on where to buy t911 unlooper. Anyone able to make a recommendation?

TIA

jimbo · 01-04-08, 10:33 AM

DI4100N never heard of it, first thing to do is make sure u have correct model number.

lijl1971 · 01-04-08, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbo

DI4100N never heard of it, first thing to do is make sure u have correct model number.

Sorry, typo. Its a Pace DI4001N

jimbo · 01-04-08, 12:45 PM

if u dont want to mess with card pnp led simm will read numbers inside the box for u to use.

spikebaby · 01-04-08, 02:40 PM

you can use a 911 with the correct script, but you mustnt touch it whilst running as this will mark the otp on the card , use led simm as above for unmarked card reasons

as for cam on a 4001 there is not one but maybe if you could connect the stb.umm you never know

lijl1971 · 01-04-08, 04:58 PM

Thanks to spikebaby and jimbo for your replies! I am now on track

01-04-08, 10:27 AM	#1 (permalink)
lijl1971 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 8 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Boxkeys, JTag's and unlooping... Hi Everyone. I am looking for a bit of advice and direction. I am currently playing with NewCS and a SoftCam for Linux called sasc-ng. The softcam can read nagra roms and use a softcam.keys file with the appropriate keys in to dectypt a cable stream. This all works very reliably, but I am also trying to play with the cardserver feature of sasc-ng. Essentially this feature allows it to talk to a card server (in my case NewCS) to perform the same function of decrypting the stream and rolling keys. What I am trying to do with this setup is use my original smart card (unmodified if possible) to do the decryption rather than keep it all in software. Doing it all in software does make more sense in terms of practicality, but this is just an experiment to see if its possible. The only problem that I have come up against so far is that NewCS requires the boxkey for the legit card to be able to decrypt the stream. I am looking for the most practical way to get the boxkey without poking either the card or the STB (for obvious reasons). Using a different box would obviously defeat the purpose of what I am trying to do, which is use the legit card to decrypt the stream on a PC. So... the question then is this; should I try to unloop the card? Will this potentially damage it. I understand that everything has a risk, but realistically, how likely am I to poke it? The alternative that I can see is jtagging the STB (DI4100N). Again, this is my actual STB and I don't particularly want to fook it up for obvious reasons. Please note that this is not your average funcard exercise where it is ideal to use another box. I simply want to find out the boxkey and that is all. I searched the forum but couldn't find any recommendations on where to buy t911 unlooper. Anyone able to make a recommendation? TIA

01-04-08, 10:33 AM	#2 (permalink)
jimbo Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,405 Thanks: 18 Thanked 151 Times in 108 Posts	Re: Boxkeys, JTag's and unlooping... DI4100N never heard of it, first thing to do is make sure u have correct model number. __________________ only a fool pays sat subs lol

01-04-08, 12:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
jimbo Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,405 Thanks: 18 Thanked 151 Times in 108 Posts	Re: Boxkeys, JTag's and unlooping... if u dont want to mess with card pnp led simm will read numbers inside the box for u to use. __________________ only a fool pays sat subs lol

01-04-08, 02:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
spikebaby Underground crew member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,190 Thanks: 23 Thanked 189 Times in 174 Posts	Re: Boxkeys, JTag's and unlooping... you can use a 911 with the correct script, but you mustnt touch it whilst running as this will mark the otp on the card , use led simm as above for unmarked card reasons as for cam on a 4001 there is not one but maybe if you could connect the stb.umm you never know

01-04-08, 04:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
lijl1971 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 8 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Boxkeys, JTag's and unlooping... Thanks to spikebaby and jimbo for your replies! I am now on track


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