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tvman · 10-04-08, 03:36 PM

Ok I need one of you smart software guys who knows the Eurovox max box software to explain this to me if they can please.
I don’t need to go over the current picture, everyone knows that the keys are being changed daily, i.e keys 0 and 1 changed on alternate cycles. At least here in the midlands with t*****t
Now my brother has a star view box, when it goes off as a result of a key change. He re-scanned the channels. When it came back up and he looked at the keys – one of the keys had been altered from the last one he entered off the BIGMAQ toolbar to something new!
Last night when I gave him the new key 00 he realised the star view box had already calculated the new key bar one digit!!!!!
The last but one digit was one below what it should be (if the toolbar said it was 9 the box had calculated 8)
Too prove he wasn’t seeing things when the keys we were changed this morning, rather than wait for the new keys on BIGMAQ we looked at the key data for 01 and added one to the last but one digit.
Amazingly it worked!!!
I took the key and added it to my Eurovox bax and that worked as well, so within 5 minutes of the key change we had the new key and the channels back!! Even before the new keys were on BIGMAQ
Then I read this article about providers changing one digit and realised why the starview box could be doing what it is .....
http://www.techwatch.co.uk/2008/04/09/virgin-code-update-cripples-cable-boxes/
There must be other starview boxes out there that are doing the same thing?
It might be a simple case of people not realising it!
Can Eurovox boxes be made do the same thing ??
Hope it helps others.

ziyu · 10-04-08, 03:45 PM

hello there,
that is indeed very interesting. my friend updated his Kryptview firmware to the one released on 4 Apr. his box is auto updating the keys.
i am just hoping that somecome comes up with a firmware for eurovox..

Cheers

lucky13 · 10-04-08, 03:48 PM

The Kryptview, Starview 2 and Box Super all have firmware updates to overcome this new encryption

jimbo · 10-04-08, 03:53 PM

eurovox update on its way.

ziyu · 10-04-08, 04:02 PM

great then. after all if the other two boxes can emulate the keys then i guess VM is not using a rocket science method.
well, cant wait for the Eurovox update!

ste_tails · 10-04-08, 04:35 PM

hi curious just read your post thought it was very interesting ! i have the box pvr upstairs dont like it think its rubbish but thats another post lol.
so any way just read what you said and went upstairs to find pvr had stopped working let it update its self found the new key, i banged it on my euro vox and and now its working again .

i always new there was a reason i shelled out £200 on that piece of sh*t

ste_tails · 10-04-08, 04:50 PM

i cant belive just as i posted that they changed the 00 key again !

well just to prove your idea the pvrs got me up and running again on my euro vox
cheers again

tvman · 10-04-08, 05:01 PM

No problem guys, me and my eurovox, its gone again and my brother has gone to work !!

I am going to have to nick his starview :-)

Yep cant wait for the eurobox software fix .....

I cant be that far away now surely ?

10-04-08, 03:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
tvman Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: West Midlands Posts: 39 Thanks: 6 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Curious - Star view box calculates 99.9% of new keys automatically. Ok I need one of you smart software guys who knows the Eurovox max box software to explain this to me if they can please. I don’t need to go over the current picture, everyone knows that the keys are being changed daily, i.e keys 0 and 1 changed on alternate cycles. At least here in the midlands with t*****t Now my brother has a star view box, when it goes off as a result of a key change. He re-scanned the channels. When it came back up and he looked at the keys – one of the keys had been altered from the last one he entered off the BIGMAQ toolbar to something new! Last night when I gave him the new key 00 he realised the star view box had already calculated the new key bar one digit!!!!! The last but one digit was one below what it should be (if the toolbar said it was 9 the box had calculated 8) Too prove he wasn’t seeing things when the keys we were changed this morning, rather than wait for the new keys on BIGMAQ we looked at the key data for 01 and added one to the last but one digit. Amazingly it worked!!! I took the key and added it to my Eurovox bax and that worked as well, so within 5 minutes of the key change we had the new key and the channels back!! Even before the new keys were on BIGMAQ Then I read this article about providers changing one digit and realised why the starview box could be doing what it is ..... http://www.techwatch.co.uk/2008/04/09/virgin-code-update-cripples-cable-boxes/ There must be other starview boxes out there that are doing the same thing? It might be a simple case of people not realising it! Can Eurovox boxes be made do the same thing ?? Hope it helps others.

10-04-08, 03:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
ziyu Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 59 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Curious - Star view box calculates 99.9% of new keys automatically. hello there, that is indeed very interesting. my friend updated his Kryptview firmware to the one released on 4 Apr. his box is auto updating the keys. i am just hoping that somecome comes up with a firmware for eurovox.. Cheers __________________ *Ziy*

10-04-08, 03:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
lucky13 LOOK-KEY 13!!!! Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,679 Thanks: 7 Thanked 375 Times in 317 Posts	Re: Curious - Star view box calculates 99.9% of new keys automatically. The Kryptview, Starview 2 and Box Super all have firmware updates to overcome this new encryption

10-04-08, 03:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
jimbo Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,336 Thanks: 16 Thanked 142 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Curious - Star view box calculates 99.9% of new keys automatically. eurovox update on its way. __________________ only a fool pays sat subs lol

10-04-08, 04:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
ziyu Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 59 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Curious - Star view box calculates 99.9% of new keys automatically. great then. after all if the other two boxes can emulate the keys then i guess VM is not using a rocket science method. well, cant wait for the Eurovox update! __________________ *Ziy*


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10-04-08, 04:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
ste_tails Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 28 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Curious - Star view box calculates 99.9% of new keys automatically. hi curious just read your post thought it was very interesting ! i have the box pvr upstairs dont like it think its rubbish but thats another post lol. so any way just read what you said and went upstairs to find pvr had stopped working let it update its self found the new key, i banged it on my euro vox and and now its working again . i always new there was a reason i shelled out £200 on that piece of sh*t

10-04-08, 04:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
ste_tails Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 28 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Curious - Star view box calculates 99.9% of new keys automatically. i cant belive just as i posted that they changed the 00 key again ! well just to prove your idea the pvrs got me up and running again on my euro vox cheers again

10-04-08, 05:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
tvman Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: West Midlands Posts: 39 Thanks: 6 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Curious - Star view box calculates 99.9% of new keys automatically. No problem guys, me and my eurovox, its gone again and my brother has gone to work !! I am going to have to nick his starview :-) Yep cant wait for the eurobox software fix ..... I cant be that far away now surely ?

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