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Physcogem · 09-08-08, 11:54 AM

i was led to believe it was january when this was happening but news last week said it rolling out now. Q is, will underworld still open for a while.

i have to move my dish higher next week to get 19e so at mo i dont use 19e

Analoguesat · 09-08-08, 01:00 PM

Yes the card swap have started and the software in most boxes will be upgraded to NDS in the near future.

eddik · 11-08-08, 02:49 PM

will there be anything available trex, diablo to open pre.... or is it gone for a while

Analoguesat · 11-08-08, 05:06 PM

Once it goes to NDS its game over. (Its what Sky UK use)

It will be subscription or card share only.

Ghitulescu · 11-11-08, 11:35 AM

Sorry Analoguesat,
Sky UK is of no interest for many hackers. That's why NDS Videoguard was so "secure".
Sky Italia was hacked (I don't know details).
However, when Premiere will move on Videoguard (I think they did it yesterday), it will be hacked. Not tomorrow, but soon enough. Think of all East-Europeans surrounding Germany, most of them being good to best programmers, that watch Premiere.

In fact, if you really, REALLY, need to know, all CI algorithms have the same fundamental flaw, only implementing details being different. Once these would become known (and they are apparently due to interception of a firmware) the software solutions will appear. This is why they want to change to CI+, to avoid the flaw.

PS: I would not exclude the revenge of Kudelski (it was said that NDS helped the hackers against Nagra2).

09-08-08, 11:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
Physcogem clueless but getin there Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: n.e lincs coast Posts: 254 Thanks: 21 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts	premiere going nds i was led to believe it was january when this was happening but news last week said it rolling out now. Q is, will underworld still open for a while. i have to move my dish higher next week to get 19e so at mo i dont use 19e __________________ 70cm dish motorised, Arion af8000hdci receiver, Diablo v2.3, cas 3+, Alsat super dark motor, 60cm fixed 19e anologue.

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Analoguesat satellite expert Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 8,362 Thanks: 11 Thanked 272 Times in 244 Posts	Re: premiere going nds Yes the card swap have started and the software in most boxes will be upgraded to NDS in the near future. __________________ To all the cable boys - do not post: keys of any sort firmware for receivers links to sites carrying files, keys or fixes Read the rules before you post - click here to read them

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eddik Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: premiere going nds will there be anything available trex, diablo to open pre.... or is it gone for a while

11-08-08, 05:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
Analoguesat satellite expert Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 8,362 Thanks: 11 Thanked 272 Times in 244 Posts	Re: premiere going nds Once it goes to NDS its game over. (Its what Sky UK use) It will be subscription or card share only. __________________ To all the cable boys - do not post: keys of any sort firmware for receivers links to sites carrying files, keys or fixes Read the rules before you post - click here to read them

11-11-08, 11:35 AM	#5 (permalink)
Ghitulescu Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 20 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: premiere going nds Sorry Analoguesat, Sky UK is of no interest for many hackers. That's why NDS Videoguard was so "secure". Sky Italia was hacked (I don't know details). However, when Premiere will move on Videoguard (I think they did it yesterday), it will be hacked. Not tomorrow, but soon enough. Think of all East-Europeans surrounding Germany, most of them being good to best programmers, that watch Premiere. In fact, if you really, REALLY, need to know, all CI algorithms have the same fundamental flaw, only implementing details being different. Once these would become known (and they are apparently due to interception of a firmware) the software solutions will appear. This is why they want to change to CI+, to avoid the flaw. PS: I would not exclude the revenge of Kudelski (it was said that NDS helped the hackers against Nagra2).


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