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Physcogem · 09-08-08, 10:54 AM

i was led to believe it was january when this was happening but news last week said it rolling out now. Q is, will underworld still open for a while.

i have to move my dish higher next week to get 19e so at mo i dont use 19e

Analoguesat · 09-08-08, 12:00 PM

Yes the card swap have started and the software in most boxes will be upgraded to NDS in the near future.

eddik · 11-08-08, 01:49 PM

will there be anything available trex, diablo to open pre.... or is it gone for a while

Analoguesat · 11-08-08, 04:06 PM

Once it goes to NDS its game over. (Its what Sky UK use)

It will be subscription or card share only.

Ghitulescu · 11-11-08, 10:35 AM

Sorry Analoguesat,
Sky UK is of no interest for many hackers. That's why NDS Videoguard was so "secure".
Sky Italia was hacked (I don't know details).
However, when Premiere will move on Videoguard (I think they did it yesterday), it will be hacked. Not tomorrow, but soon enough. Think of all East-Europeans surrounding Germany, most of them being good to best programmers, that watch Premiere.

In fact, if you really, REALLY, need to know, all CI algorithms have the same fundamental flaw, only implementing details being different. Once these would become known (and they are apparently due to interception of a firmware) the software solutions will appear. This is why they want to change to CI+, to avoid the flaw.

PS: I would not exclude the revenge of Kudelski (it was said that NDS helped the hackers against Nagra2).

09-08-08, 10:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
Physcogem clueless but getin there Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: n.e lincs coast Posts: 466 Thanks: 80 Thanked 22 Times in 22 Posts	premiere going nds i was led to believe it was january when this was happening but news last week said it rolling out now. Q is, will underworld still open for a while. i have to move my dish higher next week to get 19e so at mo i dont use 19e

09-08-08, 12:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
Analoguesat manic midlander retired mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 11,668 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1,339 Times in 990 Posts	Re: premiere going nds Yes the card swap have started and the software in most boxes will be upgraded to NDS in the near future. __________________ Basic forum rules for both satellite & cable: no keys no patches no offering or asking for card shares Anyone pm'ing me for details of card sharing or anything to do with hacking cable will be banned immediately Analogue forever!!

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eddik Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: premiere going nds will there be anything available trex, diablo to open pre.... or is it gone for a while

11-08-08, 04:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
Analoguesat manic midlander retired mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 11,668 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1,339 Times in 990 Posts	Re: premiere going nds Once it goes to NDS its game over. (Its what Sky UK use) It will be subscription or card share only. __________________ Basic forum rules for both satellite & cable: no keys no patches no offering or asking for card shares Anyone pm'ing me for details of card sharing or anything to do with hacking cable will be banned immediately Analogue forever!!

11-11-08, 10:35 AM	#5 (permalink)
Ghitulescu Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 53 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: premiere going nds Sorry Analoguesat, Sky UK is of no interest for many hackers. That's why NDS Videoguard was so "secure". Sky Italia was hacked (I don't know details). However, when Premiere will move on Videoguard (I think they did it yesterday), it will be hacked. Not tomorrow, but soon enough. Think of all East-Europeans surrounding Germany, most of them being good to best programmers, that watch Premiere. In fact, if you really, REALLY, need to know, all CI algorithms have the same fundamental flaw, only implementing details being different. Once these would become known (and they are apparently due to interception of a firmware) the software solutions will appear. This is why they want to change to CI+, to avoid the flaw. PS: I would not exclude the revenge of Kudelski (it was said that NDS helped the hackers against Nagra2).

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