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Old 19-08-08, 01:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all,

I am looking to set up a myth tv box with cable access. My brother has a DBOX2 which can access all the encrypted channels, which i would like to duplicate.

So far i have a small form factor pc, via c7 processor (1 gighz) and plenty of ram. connects to a telly. There is only 1 pci slot, which is taken by a DVB-T card (the DVB-C card will replace this)

Questions.
1. Can cam software decode every channel on v*rg*n?
2. Is all the decoding done on the CPU or can a DVB-C card handle some?
3. Depending on 2, which card should i go for and do i NEED a CI?
4. Best place to get the card.

Also if you think winMediaCentre is a better route than Myth please let me know, but im fairly confident with linux and c coding.

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Hi all,

I am looking to set up a myth tv box with cable access. My brother has a DBOX2 which can access all the encrypted channels, which i would like to duplicate.

So far i have a small form factor pc, via c7 processor (1 gighz) and plenty of ram. connects to a telly. There is only 1 pci slot, which is taken by a DVB-T card (the DVB-C card will replace this)

Questions.
1. Can cam software decode every channel on v*rg*n?
2. Is all the decoding done on the CPU or can a DVB-C card handle some?
3. Depending on 2, which card should i go for and do i NEED a CI?
4. Best place to get the card.

Also if you think winMediaCentre is a better route than Myth please let me know, but im fairly confident with linux and c coding.

Cheers
Griz
1. yes
2. afaik, cpu
3. depends what you want to spend! don't need a CI but with cam and smartcard AU (auto updates) when there is a keyroll (but overall very expensive), there is a softcam that seems to be AU (free) which you would need a card only (no CI).
4. you will have to pm me.

I think your processor will struggle with this, maybe someone else can advise better.
Have you looked at _http://linvdr.org/projects/linvdr/index.en.php as an alternative to myth.
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2. Depends on the route you take, if you go for the plugin decoder route, then the CPU will do the decoding (I'm thinking decryption), if you go for the CI/CAM route, then the CAM will do the decryption. It might depend on the card, but most work with MPEG2 format, so there is no decoding to do.

I don't know much about via processors, but it doesn't sound that fast, I wouldn't risk plugins, I go with a CAM - but then if you're trying to keep costs down.

Also, if it's a SFF PC - how much room do you have inside for a TV Card? A FireDTV might be a good option (if you have firewire) as it's external and has a CI Slot.

I suspect that you could try a FireDTV with plugins, then if that doesn't work, try a CAM.
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Thanks guys. Well the Via C7 is designed for low power, but has hardware mpeg2 decoder onboard, so the idea is that it can play mpeg streams straight from a dvb card without any processing overhead. It works fine with FTA dvb-t.

Encoding is another matter (but recording is easy too if the program directly writes the mpeg stream to disk) So i am glad to hear that the CI can handle the decryption alone without cpu overhead. This CI reader (as an attachment to a TT budget card) would fit inside the space for a compact flash disk?

so questions again

1. What is the deal with CI cards. do i have to get a card writer and make them up, or is there "people" i can buy from and do they auto update etc, what are the options.

2. LinVDR looks good and lightweight. Is there any alternatives with english as the development language. I am a good coder and like to get hands dirty with the internals, but can't read german as of yet.
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Thanks guys. Well the Via C7 is designed for low power, but has hardware mpeg2 decoder onboard, so the idea is that it can play mpeg streams straight from a dvb card without any processing overhead. It works fine with FTA dvb-t.

Encoding is another matter (but recording is easy too if the program directly writes the mpeg stream to disk) So i am glad to hear that the CI can handle the decryption alone without cpu overhead. This CI reader (as an attachment to a TT budget card) would fit inside the space for a compact flash disk?

so questions again

1. What is the deal with CI cards. do i have to get a card writer and make them up, or is there "people" i can buy from and do they auto update etc, what are the options.

2. LinVDR looks good and lightweight. Is there any alternatives with english as the development language. I am a good coder and like to get hands dirty with the internals, but can't read german as of yet.



I’m sure you need a pci slot for the budget card CI and one for the card (check that out).
  1. you will need :- a card writer, the correct cam (card goes in cam) for the CI slot, not sure what will work with linux os (if that is what you use) – twintown or cafe racers dyslexic brother cafe rcaer have lots more experience with cams and cards (they will advise better)
2. A while ago I looked at installing linux (never did) and looked at hxxp://linuxtv.org/vdrwiki/index.php/VDRdon’t know if it is what you are after but has a english manual. lol

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