A bit stuck !

[gaz_az]

Originally Posted by Cafe.Rcaer

You wouldn't get channels if the CAMs were flashed "wrong"

Are you sure this is right ?? I took the zeta CAM's out completely and I can still watch bbc1, bbc2 etc .......

In the FireDTV suppot tool it lists the CAM as "CAM Module: Module". I have seen othe people publish this info and it says "joker"

[Confused Stu]

V*rgin streams most channels encrypted, but sends some through unecrypted (BBC1, 2, 3, ITV1, C4, etc). Without a CAM working properly you'll only get the unencrypted channels displaying a picture.

If you're using the MCE drivers for the FloppyDTVs, then they're emulating DVB-T cards. In FireDTV, to get it to scan you therefore need to select Terestrial rather than Cable as to which kind of scan you're running.

I've got a Blue Zeta that I got preflashed by Hisat and my FloppyDTV report shows "CAM: Module" just like yours. I've never managed to find anything yet that will let me modify the BoxKey, so like CafeRacer said I'm just using the default one. If you haven't got the default one yet, look here h**p://www.satellietnl.nl/CIcam.htm under Icecrypt Black.

Good luck.

[gaz_az]

Originally Posted by Confused Stu

V*rgin streams most channels encrypted, but sends some through unecrypted (BBC1, 2, 3, ITV1, C4, etc). Without a CAM working properly you'll only get the unencrypted channels displaying a picture.

If you're using the MCE drivers for the FloppyDTVs, then they're emulating DVB-T cards. In FireDTV, to get it to scan you therefore need to select Terestrial rather than Cable as to which kind of scan you're running.

I've got a Blue Zeta that I got preflashed by Hisat and my FloppyDTV report shows "CAM: Module" just like yours. I've never managed to find anything yet that will let me modify the BoxKey, so like CafeRacer said I'm just using the default one. If you haven't got the default one yet, look here h**p://www.satellietnl.nl/CIcam.htm under Icecrypt Black.

Good luck.

You are the man !! thanks for clarification

Found the BK - do I need an IRD or can it be anything ???

[Sandymount]

If I might jump in here...

I have a very similar setup - intended for Vista Ultimate 32bit when completed.

I am currently currently testing the setup using a Windows XP 32bit machine.

While, like you, I have two FloppyDTVs and two ZetaCAM Blues, I am simply trying to replace the external STBs with cards inside my system so that I won't have the issues with changing channels and missing channels (that require the STBs to be rebooted) using the IR relay setup with MCE.

Ehn-Tee-Elle () in Dublin (Ireland) use an exclusive model of Pace modem (similar to a box used for DVB-S in Germany, I think) (h**p://www.pace.com/corporate/products/productDetails.asp?nav=products&productID=DCABLE-DC221KN).

I installed the FloppyDTV with no problems (at different times selecting BDA or MCE). As you discovered, Gaz, when installing as BDA the FireDTV will scan channels when you specify that the service is cable. However, if you selected MCE install, the card must be treated as Terrestrial when scanning for channels.

In Dublin, Euronews is the only channel that is not encrypted. That channel works fine, as does the EPG, when using FireDTV Viewer. The EPG shows a little 'key' icon next to all other channels scanned and when they are selected to view, you see nothing but a black screen in the FireDTV Viewer.

The ZetaCAMs came (I assume) pre-loaded with Joker 0.79. When I insert the ZetaCAMs into the FloppyDTVs, they are detected fine and I can even use the 'Common Interface' tool (on the FloppyDTV CDROM) to view the BoxKey pre-set onto the ZetaCAM Blue. From this screen you can change the BoxKey by entering each byte of the BoxKey one octet ('word', two bytes) at a time in decimal format - not Hex. If you put in any number that doesn't match a legit sequence, the tool quits out. I wonder, could they have made it any more oblique.

I have - after a large amount of frustration, which eventually showed me how simple it was to find - finally figured out how to obtain the IRD of my Irish STBs but, after all that, they are not included on the BoxKey database (probably because the box is so localised to this country).

I do not want any extra channels - I only want the channels I am already paying for to be fully managed by Windows MCE (which I have grown to love and blows the water out from under the rubbish EPG that comes from the provider).

I have three legit STBs, three IRDs, the provider's symbol rate, the provider's network ID, the provider's channel frequencies, two of the provider's public keys, three of the provider's Nagra cards (ROM version 11 Rev BOD and paired to their STBs, I think), two FloppyDTVs, two ZetaCAM Blues and a CAS3+.

Given that I am able to scan and find Euronews and watch it (albeit for as long as I can stand to!), to view the other channels that are all encrypted, are the following two questions the right questions to be asking? And what are their answers?

1) If I had the BoxKey for each STB, I could then (am I right here?) program the BoxKeys into my ZetaCAM Blues, insert the legit Nagra cards (for their corresponding BoxKey) and - POP! - all my channels would be unencrypted.

2) If my IRD is not in the BoxKey database, do I have to get one of those horrible LED SIMM things to get the BoxKey out of the STBs?

[TwinTown]

1) If I had the BoxKey for each STB, I could then (am I right here?) program the BoxKeys into my ZetaCAM Blues, insert the legit Nagra cards (for their corresponding BoxKey) and - POP! - all my channels would be unencrypted.

OK i guess u got the IRDs from the STB EM or from the card dropping first and last numbers and using the ird convertor tool or the scientific calculator....the thing is u don't need the ird for the cam...just invent one for ur img.

i know u want to be legal and use the cards as u would ur subbed boxes but the fact of the matter u won't be legal no matter what u do. The cable and boxes belong to the cc and soon as u touch them ur breaking the law.

2) If my IRD is not in the BoxKey database, do I have to get one of those horrible LED SIMM things to get the BoxKey out of the STBs?

Don't read your subbed cards or tamper with ur stb to get ur boxkeys because soon as u try to read the cards they will be marked and this can be read by ur cc to show u've been looking. if u've looked in the EM of ur boxes to get the IRDs this is also recorded.
Golden rule do not touch subbed boxes or cards.....

also if u do read the subbed cards and change ur cams to that boxkey i'm not sure it would function identically to the stb and if it don't the card will be fried, then u will be in trouble.

morally if u don't want to receive the channels u don't pay for u can write a mosc to have the identical tiers as ur subbed cards......u can use tierlite to read ur subbed cards (golden rule broken) but this software does not mark ur card nor does it give u ur bk. u then create an img and use a mosc card. make up a bk for ur cam and img, (i use a single bk in all my cams which matches a stb (not my subbed one) which makes life easier as these cards will need regular maintenance) then only add the tiers u pay for then this will only clear the channels u pay for.....but ur still breaking the law.....but a high court judge may look favourably upon you because of this and reduce ur sentance...

[TwinTown]

Originally Posted by gaz_az

You are the man !! thanks for clarification

Found the BK - do I need an IRD or can it be anything ???

ird anything - yes 4 hexadecimal numbers....

most sammy's stb start or end witn 3E ** ** ** or ** ** ** 3E

[gaz_az]

Originally Posted by TwinTown

ird anything - yes 4 haxadecimal numbers....

most sammy's stb start or end witn 3E ** ** ** or ** ** ** 3E

Thanks got it all up an running with fun4 autoupdating. Just need to sort the EPG.

[Sandymount]

Originally Posted by TwinTown

...the thing is u don't need the ird for the cam...just invent one for ur img.

i know u want to be legal and use the cards as u would ur subbed boxes but the fact of the matter u won't be legal no matter what u do. The cable and boxes belong to the cc and soon as u touch them ur breaking the law.

I only want the digital cable to be captured within the PC, "all other priorities rescinded". I wrongly thought I was making life easier on myself.

Does this mean that I have to get some Fun 4 cards or do I already have everything I need... i.e. Is the FloppyDTV and the CAM enough to decrypt without a credit card thingy or do I need to go out and buy some Fun4 cards and load them up?

Originally Posted by TwinTown

ur still breaking the law.....but a high court judge may look favourably upon you because of this and reduce ur sentance...

...sweeeet.

[TwinTown]

Originally Posted by Sandymount

I only want the digital cable to be captured within the PC, "all other priorities rescinded". I wrongly thought I was making life easier on myself.

Does this mean that I have to get some Fun 4 cards or do I already have everything I need... i.e. Is the FloppyDTV and the CAM enough to decrypt without a credit card thingy or do I need to go out and buy some Fun4 cards and load them up?





...sweeeet.

fun 4's should be ok but i use fun 5's.....u need some sort of smartcard with the cam. i've also used rom11 moscs

cheers & good luck