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Old 27-10-08, 09:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Good morning all , just curious if anyone know how to sort this problem out. Iv read loads of threads whit people haveing this problem but i havent found any solution to it if there even is one.

Tiny unlooper
Card has a ATR in Nagraedit but when run VCC-Analyzer I get :

VCC 30: XXXXXXXXXXXX 6F = 0% FF = 0%
VCC 2F: XXXXXXXXXXXX 6F = 0% FF = 0%
VCC 2E: XXXXXXXXXXXX 6F = 0% FF = 0%
VCC 2D: XXXXXXXXXXXX 6F = 0% FF = 0%
VCC 2C: XXXXXXXXXXXX 6F = 0% FF = 0%
ect
ect
ect
VCC Ceiling: 00
VCC Floor..: 00

Iv had a few cards like this now,they have a ATR but i still get the above.
No matter how much i change the pot i still get nothing.
i can do other cards fine.

any ideas?

i cant try anything this morning though,got some sh1t to do

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Old 27-10-08, 01:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What unlooper are you using?
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Old 27-10-08, 02:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
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TINY-UNLOOPER mate but iv seen others having this problem with other makes.
Im thinking the cards are just dead but i thought aslong as there is a ATR then it is ok. I feel confidant im doing everything correct so the problem must be with the card & i was just hoping someone knew a solution to the problem or is it only good for the bin.

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ive had that in past and if anyone knows the answer then im intrsted to find out.
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Does the card read successfully in Nagra and does it have a provider etc?
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Good morning all , just curious if anyone know how to sort this problem out. Iv read loads of threads whit people haveing this problem but i havent found any solution to it if there even is one.

Tiny unlooper
Card has a ATR in Nagraedit but when run VCC-Analyzer I get :

VCC 30: XXXXXXXXXXXX 6F = 0% FF = 0%
VCC 2F: XXXXXXXXXXXX 6F = 0% FF = 0%
VCC 2E: XXXXXXXXXXXX 6F = 0% FF = 0%
VCC 2D: XXXXXXXXXXXX 6F = 0% FF = 0%
VCC 2C: XXXXXXXXXXXX 6F = 0% FF = 0%
ect
ect
ect
VCC Ceiling: 00
VCC Floor..: 00

Iv had a few cards like this now,they have a ATR but i still get the above.
No matter how much i change the pot i still get nothing.
i can do other cards fine.

any ideas?

i cant try anything this morning though,got some sh1t to do

cheers
The only time i have ever seen similar to this is when i run sidewinder and the vcc is too high i run mine around the 20 mark i know we have diff unloopers (im using the t911) but if its set too high then it wont read it properly, have you tried adjusting your pot?
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Old 27-10-08, 04:50 PM   #7 (permalink)
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sqwidge-yea mate,adjusting pot doesnt make a difference. i adjust it fine for other cards though.

blakey - yea mate it reads everything it should read for a locked card in nagra,atr,cam ect.


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did anyone ever figure this 1 out ?

a mate brought me a card earlier from a 2110, it reads in nagra as a rom11 B0D with a valid cam id and provider info and all that stuff.

if i open it in mrom and click reset it gives an IRD beginning 3E so im pretty sure it hasnt been hit with 6D boxkey yet.

when i fire up the TINY to unloop the fecker i get the exact same result as the OP

anyone know a way around this ?
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Old 05-11-08, 12:37 AM   #9 (permalink)
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The only time i use vcc is if i have a rom 10 or use a different script, i dont reset with every card, i never have a problem popping bod's with M/D script, have you tried running the script with setting that worked on another bod ?
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use the mikedata rom bod A86 script, and flash the tiny with the tiny flash, i reckon you are using the sidewinder script, yyou should not have any problems with the above script
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